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Alright guys and Gals........ I have always owned Holdens and up until recently I have only ever owned one ford and that being an xf ute that blew its new head gasket 50k's after purchase so when I recently got a 93 Nc Fairlane LTD 5 litre I was worried. Well yes it does have issues but thats what you get on a second hand car. The sumps got a small leak, one hose from the Thermo housing has a small leak and the relay connections for the lights were rusted, about it. All done except the sump gasket. I recently replaced the original Alpine premium unit with an mp3 deck and became a member of ford forum to get some info on wiring diagrams....... nothing. Try fordmods........ no drama found right away and come in handy. Seems every post I have put on fordforum in the last month has gone unanswered unless I wanted to buy something from members. Well not only does fordmods have an extensive array of info but there members actually post replys. Thanks Guys and thanks Fordmods keep up the good work. And yes I do miss my 73 Lj 173 block 202 headed supercharged beast but the Fairlane is a fantastic car and if it was not for the kids it would be a great starter for a streeter
Rob 
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Welcome to Fordmods dude, glad you found the info you required, and fairly easily by the sounds of it. I've found a lot of info out about my EB Ghia, which i bought to replace my LH Torry, (173, T04 Turbo & 45 DCOE weber) as my daily drive. I've since modified the car heaps, with help from members on here, and a couple of the mods i've just worked out how to do myself, like my alternator mod.
I also picked up a couple of Xr8's a few mths ago, and knew very little about the v8 falcon's, the members here have been very helpful, i'd be in some s**t if it wasn't for them! Cheers ToranaGuy
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lol hi
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| 79 raven |
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decent headers through to mandrel bent without centre muffler as I reckon the cats would give enough back pressure and then muck around with the stereo a bit more. Apart from cleaning little bits up I think might leave it at that. She is a REALLY clean car in original condition ( 3rd owner and I still have the original sales rep's card from first sale!) Was going to put thermo's but been told doing so the gain is so minor its not worth the dosh spent. Also was going to go bigger wheels but as its used as a tow car sometimes I don’t like towing on low profiles. Should keep it kind of cheap to run ( she is dual fuel) and reliable while picking up a little torque and a nice note without being a copper magnet. Do the ss hotdogs go alright on these instead of the centre muffler?
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Going to the thermos is a very very worthwhile mod.
Much better cooling , better running temps , a fair wack of HP released from getting rid of the parasitic clutch fan and much much quiter. Best mod you can do for around the $180 mark , even more so if you are using it to tow. By the way Welcome!
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79raven wrote: the Fairlane is a fantastic car and if it was not for the kids it would be a great starter for a streeter Rob Ahh! another big -a*** Fairlane convert! Couldn't have said it better, welcome aboard mate!
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| 79 raven |
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Thanks Guys, glad to be a member and yes I am converted. F#$k I love my Fairlane even as stock as it is. I thought Thermo's would be a huge gain as even though the clutch fan is not always active the motor is still turning it so of course its sucking power. The bloke at supercheap who is supposedly some ford specialist had a tirade about how the conversion would only give me about 2kw and not even noticable torque gains but I was sure he was not right. Should have trusted my own mechanical knowledge. Got to figure out this weekend if the sump gasket is the cause of oil on my bell housing or if its the rear main or crank seal. I got under the other day for a quick look and it seemed to be coming from the sump gasket and being thrown back while driving but I need to take the stone cover off and have a good look. Its a shame about the leak because its the only thing wrong at the moment and its due for pink slip 1st of july this year so its got to be fixed. Its not bad ( about 200ml in a month) but you know how most mechanics will find any excuse to suck money out of you
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thermos are definintly a good upgrade but the guy is right, its not much hp increase but its probably more then 2kw. Youl notice the car will rev a bit easier if anything.
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| XR9UTE |
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Grab the 3 piece underdrives from BPT too Rob,
Best bang for the buck out there. Cheers, Pete. |
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| 79 raven |
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lighter harmonic..... that makes sense. prob give more gains than going thermo's too with the water pump pully in the package and $285 is a decent price. Funny too the harmonic on it at the moment is good but the rubber seal between the 2 pulleys is showing signs of going in the near future. She has 226 thou on the clock at the moment so going hard on the motor upgrades is not a good idea unless rebuid then might aswell go the whole hog but going for better stock parts i.e headers, induction, pulleys etc will not have me blowing a piston down the road but will put a smile on my dial none the less. That was my thought with the thermo's.... just reduce the amount of work the motor has to do in every day use
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| XR9UTE |
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You realise the Harmonic is not part of the underdrives? Slowing down the accessories will just reduce the load on the engine. 226k's if it's had regular oil changes is fine for a 5.0.
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| 79 raven |
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I thought overdrives were a part of the tranny but when i got on to there web site it was going on about also including a water pump pulley aswell and looking on my pc screen it looked like a harmonic balancer so I assumed it was some new Trendy name or something? With the 3 piece unit how will that help in power gain? Will it not just rev lower at high speed and therefore keep kicking down to 3rd every time I touch the gas at high speed and therefore burn out the gears?
Also I inspected the leak and think it might have been one sump bolt that was a little loose but dont know. I have read that there is a crank seal and a rear main????? It seems it could be coming from the back of the sump, possibly at the very back there is a bell shaped section that is not attached to the bell housing from what I can see so I guess thats the crank seal in there? If it is, is it a matter of dropping the sump to replace the seal? I dont know if it was being thrown back to the front of the bell housing from the sump gasket or if its coming from inside the bell shaped bit on the back of the sump but there is a trail on the outside of the bell housing so I assume its not the rear main as it would be coming out from inside the bell housing? |
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The underdirve pulleys underdrive the accessories, thereby reducing the power required to drive them. So you gain around 12-18lb/ft and similar hp across the entire rev range. It's a good idea when you consider most of the accessories are spun too hard in the first place..especially the water pump.
Tighten up that sump bolt, in fact tighten all of them and degrease the whole thing then have another look later. Take your time, I've seen rear mains replaced when it was the gasket behind the intake manifold or even a rocker cover gasket!? |
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| 79 raven |
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XR9UTE wrote: The underdirve pulleys underdrive the accessories, thereby reducing the power required to drive them. So you gain around 12-18lb/ft and similar hp across the entire rev range. It's a good idea when you consider most of the accessories are spun too hard in the first place..especially the water pump. Tighten up that sump bolt, in fact tighten all of them and degrease the whole thing then have another look later. Take your time, I've seen rear mains replaced when it was the gasket behind the intake manifold or even a rocker cover gasket!? so the accessories your talking about would be air con, power steer and water pump????? I thought underdrives were for top gear in the box  Where does the underdrives get bolted to then? I know the kit has a water pump pulley so that ones a no brainer but were do the others bolt to? Also i did degrease the motor a while ago when the problem was first noticed and as it was a mechanics car it was really greasy ( i like a clean motor) and the only oil i could see that came back was at the rear of the sump on passengers side and trailed back to the bell housing. I will still do all bolts though like you said. I am just having a stress because the fairlane is going to tow me and the family out of the s**t town of Griffith we have been stuck in for too long and with pink slip needed in july every little prob Im freakin out about. Once the move is done the fairlane and I have a date with a thing called modification. Keeping it minimal as to not make a fuel guzzling street machine yet still put a smile on my dial so any ways to free power from the motor is good. Do you guys think tossing the centre muffler and putting an ss hotdog would still keep enough back preasure and pass pink slip noise wise? stock she just sound like a 4.0 straight 6
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Don't freak too much about the oil leak if its not pissing out you can clean it up just b4 rego and i've been known to pull up just round the corner from garage and wipe any excess off!
Usually the rear muffler is tossed then a sportier main muffler is used.
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