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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:09 pm 
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Just curious, my brother has just purchased an XH Ute, very nice refined ute, an upgrade on his old XE Sedan. I was wandering did the XH utes come with electric windows? If so can they be used in an XF (virtually identical looking interior) Also, can you use the XH EFI head on an '84 XF bottom end? Its already got an '86 EFI head on it.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:41 pm 
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power windows - not sure but id imagine so and if not im sure XF ones could be made to fit

head - NO, XG's and XH's used the 4L OHC Motor the same as EB-AU's.
If you wanted the new head your would need to do an engine swap using XG mounts and swaybar, and a complete XG/XH Engine Loom.
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:51 pm 
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power windows werent offered as an option on XG or XH utes

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:53 pm 
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power windows werent offered as an option on XG or XH utes


what about the XH XR's? as the EF/EL XR's came with power front windows :?

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:04 pm 
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i could swear i saw an xh with power windows, and if they arent available, i'd get xf electric windows and a wiring diagram and hook em up, assuming the mounting is the same as xf.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:20 pm 
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As far as I know there are no power windows in the XGs or XHs .... I have been toying with the idea of using the XF Fairmont Ghia power window motors and other bits and pieces ... and getting E-series power window buttons and using them in the centre console. This is for my XG ute.

As mentioned the XG uses the EB/ED engine ... XH uses EF/EL engine ... from memory.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:37 pm 
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They all use the EB/ED engine I believe (at least the sixes, not sure about the V8s). Except the XH XRs, which have the Tickford motors straight from the EF/ELs. I can't see the logic in this myself as I'd have thought that if nothing else, the Utes would have benefited more from the added torque of the BBM than the regular family cars.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:25 am 
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uglybob wrote:
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power windows werent offered as an option on XG or XH utes


what about the XH XR's? as the EF/EL XR's came with power front windows :?
nope, not even on the XR's, and power windows isnt even listed as an option in the brochure

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:10 am 
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Thanks guys, was just toying with the idea, would love power windows. Are there aftermarket kits available?
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:33 am 
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yea, there are aftermarket kits available, but i reckon the easiest option would be to put the XF regs&motors in, just make sure you've got a good supply of spare motors! lol

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:09 pm 
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There was one XH model that came with power windows, it was the very last of the XHII's and it was one of those special runout models, like the XHII Splash.....something like that.

The XG uses the EBII engine
The XH uses the EF engine
The XHII uses the EL engine

The V8 didn't appear until the XHII and it was only in the XR8 and as an option in the S - The S was auto only with the V8 though.

The XF window gear will definitely drop in an XG, not 100% on a XH though. Your only problem may be the wiring to make it all work.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:18 pm 
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SK.2807 wrote:
The XG uses the EBII engine
The XH uses the EF engine
The XHII uses the EL engine


Are you absolutely sure about this? The pics for the XH in the Gregory's manual (EL) clearly show it as having an EB/D-style engine (except in the case of the XR6, which uses the EF/EL version with the BBM). I didn't believe it at first, but then I lifted the bonnet on an XH in a car yard.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:37 pm 
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Aplogies, my mistake, I was only thinking about the XR models...typing without thinking. :oops:

XG - EBII
XH - ED
XH XR6 - EF XR6
XHII - ED
XHII XR6 - EL XR6
XHII XR8 - EL XR8
XHII S - EL 8 of some description ???

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:43 pm 
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I think I have an XR6 rocker cover on my XG.
Not sure why it is on there ... but my mate said somethign about the EBII rocker covers warping due to hotspots (not sure on this).

It looks like an EF rocker cover .. and in red too.

Me thinks it was swapped ... cos the intake manifold looks like an EB one to me

 

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