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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:56 pm 
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Forgot to update :shock: :oops:

Well I got the head back. Final bill was $200 and thats resurface, pressure test and valve checked to make sure they aren't leaking.

I haven't had the time to even start on putting the things together...got myself a bike so kind of short on money =(...

hopefully I can get this done by the end of the year.

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:50 pm 
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Dude, so that means i can do the cam, and tappets with out taking the head off!!!! is that right??

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:54 pm 
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shnoza...I was planning on using degreaser/carbon cleaner on a rag and let it sit in the cylinder for a while until the carbon gets loose. Then use some more degreaser/carbon cleaner to wipe it off, if the rag is dry.

I'll probably won't be spraying any degreaser or carbon cleaner down the cylinders.

BTW krytox...which ones are the oil galleries?

Are they the big holes that are weird shaped on the right of the motor (if you look at it from front on) or are the oil galleries the smaller oval ones?

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I wise old man once told me you shouldnt touch the carbon, or remove it!!!!... ill get back to ya on that!!!... but im sure its what he said!!
and there was a real good reason too....

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:44 pm 
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Dude, so that means i can do the cam, and tappets with out taking the head off!!!! is that right??


yeah thats right
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:09 pm 
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teveo wrote:
Dude, so that means i can do the cam, and tappets with out taking the head off!!!! is that right??


yeah thats right


I concur.

and teveo...flat top piston are better...not sure if it was for combustion purposes or compression or something else...I forget. So used pistons with carbon on them tend to have less groves and be "flatter" then when they are clean. Well that's what I read somewhere and was told by my mechanic.

Too bad cylinder 6 on my block had been clean like that since I took the head off...just wiped the oil off it, pot 1 seems to be slightly cleaned and I'm leaving the rest the way they are.

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:51 pm 
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This is a good read. Looking foward to seeing more.

 

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Shum's EL wrote:
teveo wrote:
Dude, so that means i can do the cam, and tappets with out taking the head off!!!! is that right??


yeah thats right


I concur.

and teveo...flat top piston are better...not sure if it was for combustion purposes or compression or something else...I forget. So used pistons with carbon on them tend to have less groves and be "flatter" then when they are clean. Well that's what I read somewhere and was told by my mechanic.

Too bad cylinder 6 on my block had been clean like that since I took the head off...just wiped the oil off it, pot 1 seems to be slightly cleaned and I'm leaving the rest the way they are.

phong =P~


Ok.. i been trying to get intouch with my wise ol man... phone off.... maybe tomorrow ill have a reason why.... STANDBYE...

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:02 pm 
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Okay everyone. An update on what's going on here...and hopefully I can get the engine back together by the end of this year, that's if I can get off my a** and finish it off.

Anyways I got the head back a while back but didn't take any pictures of it or anything, been busy with work and getting lazier by the minute.

Since I picked up my camshaft on Friday, I thought I'd take a couple of pictures of the camshaft and resurfaced and tested head.

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The head was found to be in really good condition. Only a little bit was taken off the head to get it straight and valve seals and the lot are all in good condition with without any leaks, so thumbs up so far for the head...though contemplating on getting it port/polished, though not sure if it is worth it at the moment.

I decided to go with a regrind camshaft rather then billet, due to the price differences. I got a WadeCam 1673 grind and hopefully it will give me the oomph I am after.

I also got new TopGun leads and some gaskets so far. Still got to get VRS kit, AU headgasket, new head bolts and water pump. Contemplating on getting a new alternator or reusing the one in my car as well as trying to remove the steel water pump pulley off the old pump and putting it on the new one, don't want a nice chromed pulley go to waste :D.

Hopefully I can start on it once Christmas holidays start.

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:15 pm 
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Ummm I got myself some parts and tools to get ready to get working on this engine again. Went to Repco to buy a head gasket kit. I thought it was a VRS kit that they sold, but he sold me an ACL Monotorque one...Part number DR522MT, is that the right one? I won't be using the gasket in the kit (which I am guessing is composite, from what I've read).

Coming from Ford, will be an AU head gasket, new head bolts and a genuine water pump minus the pulley. Got a steel pulley from the old pump which I will take to work and get the maintenance crew to get it off and put it on the new one :D.

Another thing, when I picked up the head a while back, I noticed that the valve springs are grey now and not red. I asked the mechanic and he said the springs were painted red and it came off when they cleaned it...is that true? I always forgot to ask about it :shock:

Also got myself a torque wrench from TotalTools which was on special...lifetime warranty so I didn't complain.

Final question. I will be needing some shims for something so that I can use the regrind cam. I am clueless as to what these shims are, what they look like and how big they are...all I know is that it is 1.9mm and I can get them from Ford supposedly. Can someone please show me a picture as to what the shims look like and where the they go? I have no idea where to start with the shims.

Thanks everyone

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:56 pm 
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*bump*...anyone help?

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Hey phongus... im not sure but i think they are like a big washer.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:28 pm 
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These are shims, they sit in the rocker arms on top of the lifters, there's one in each arm (12 all up). With Wade cams I'm pretty sure you just add 1 extra shim to each arm, they should be able to supply the correct amount of shims anyway. s**t phone pic..
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The valve springs are painted red from factory for tickford heads, doesn't surprise me that the paint came of when the head was cleaned.
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These are shims, they sit in the rocker arms on top of the lifters, there's one in each arm (12 all up). With Wade cams I'm pretty sure you just add 1 extra shim to each arm, they should be able to supply the correct amount of shims anyway. s**t phone pic..
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The valve springs are painted red from factory for tickford heads, doesn't surprise me that the paint came of when the head was cleaned.


thank you and thank you shnoza for the help there.

I might have thought they were them but wasn't too sure since they are pretty darn expensive for the size :shock:

So I'll just ask Ford for these shims? and I guess its about 40 bucks for a set of 12 or is it more :??

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:31 am 
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You are going to need the correct thickness to suit the cam, the cam supplier might know or you will have to measure when its back together.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:37 am 
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twason wrote:
You are going to need the correct thickness to suit the cam, the cam supplier might know or you will have to measure when its back together.


WadeCams said just another 1.9mm shim will do the trick, and so have many others. So I'll stick with that for now. I think the 2.4mm is a bit too thick. If someone can correct me on that, that would be much appreciated :D.

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