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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:13 am 
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Hi guys,

As I've given up on the frustrating task of sourcing a v8 t5 I'm keeping the build auto. So to compromise for my laziness I'm looking to make it "tiptronic"

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(XHII Longreach ute conversion: AU220 V8 & AU AUTO (s2)

Can anyone shed some light on ShiftKits Manual transmission controller? Apparently it makes BTR's become permanently "manualised"

Is this like permanent tiptronic or something?
Wouldn't I need a different shifter to suit (ba style)?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:53 am 
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If you google the ba shifter into e series you will find it has been done before. Not sure on the electronic side of it though.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:12 am 
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It would make the trans hold whatever gear is selected on the gate, whatever speed you are doing. Meaning you would have to start off in 1st and shift up through the gears yourself. As Bryden said, there has been a mod where you can adapt the ba shifter into older models as the btr is pretty much the same unit e to b series.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:04 am 
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The wiring is the bit I was confused about. Not sure if it's as simple as buy that kit and custom mount a ba shifter then wam bam thank-you mam! or if there is additional wiring required.

I searched but couldn't find a step by step tech doc

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:08 am 
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It would make the trans hold whatever gear is selected on the gate, whatever speed you are doing. Meaning you would have to start off in 1st and shift up through the gears yourself.


Doesn't the gate do that anyway whenever it's not in D in the standard shifter?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:52 am 
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Dellboy999 is the man you need to speak to. If you (politely) ask for his doco he'll send it to you.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:28 pm 
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Thanks mate :D

And I'm always polite 8-) :mrgreen: :twisted: hahaha

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:36 pm 
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Littlefoot wrote:
evxr6 wrote:
It would make the trans hold whatever gear is selected on the gate, whatever speed you are doing. Meaning you would have to start off in 1st and shift up through the gears yourself.


Doesn't the gate do that anyway whenever it's not in D in the standard shifter?


Correct, except it will change up for you if you hit redline and will automatically go back to first to take off.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:41 pm 
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Oh, I thought it was locked regardless. I've never pushed an auto falcon hard, I've always had manuals.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:45 pm 
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While I'm on the topic, how are the au xr8 BTR's as opposed to earlier series?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:06 pm 
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Littlefoot wrote:
While I'm on the topic, how are the au xr8 BTR's as opposed to earlier series?


afaik there the same except no dipstick.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:15 pm 
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I was hoping there were strength and ratio improvements... dang

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:22 pm 
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they all got the same ratios,, there may be a slight difference in the pump and planetary gears but nothing to warrant going to a earlier box except for the luxury of a dip stick in eb to ef boxes..
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:07 am 
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Dellboy999 was an absolute champ, gave me heaps of info and put me on to the right person.

It's definitely going to be tiptronic now, very happy with the affordability. It will have a gear display as well which I aim to place in a gauge next to oil and volts.... Gotta fill that square ol xh dash with something round! Haha

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:09 am 
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The AU Box has valve body changes which inhibit application of the 1st gear clutch i think unless its manually selected. This is/was corrected in the Tickford ESS valve bodys.

Its minor, but means that AU Standard gearboxes cant be used for ESS - and also means they wont be as good for electronic control.

Im told that you can use an E Series (EF EL) Valve body, but you may want to talk to someone who really knows these to make sure you get any enhancements you need

I have an AU 220kw box in my E36 - and Im hoping that tickford did the goods on the box anyway

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