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 Post subject: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:25 am 
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I have am El falcon wagon 5.0 litre
The steering has got some freeplay in the universal joint.
I tried to buy a new part from Ford but they say part no longer available.
Has anyone got any ideas.

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Yep, most e-series parts are no longer available from ford.
Try calling either your local Bursons or maybe a suspension place and ask them. Im sure a suspension joint would be able to get them in for you.

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:04 pm 
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How's the upper uni at the base of the steering column ???

I doubt you will be able to find those uni joints new from anywhere - if you do, let us all know.
Otherwise, you can make a serviceable intermediate shaft from 2 second hand units - you need to destroy one to get the uni joint parts you need to rebuild another. Use HTB grease to lube the needle rollers.
Takes an afternoon or a bit longer to do.

Otherwise, your other option (which is what you'll most likely do) is to get another without any play from a wreckers.
Has to be another EL one too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:54 pm 
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Thanks for the Advice.
I'll keep trying
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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:17 am 
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The joint is crimped into place in three places, I have used a blunt center punch to "recrimp" the joint which removes the movement nicely. Dodgy - yesm but as you have found they are not available new and hard if not imposible to find one second hand without play.

 

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:11 pm 
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The uni spider does have flexible plastic inserts at the ends that bear up against those crimped caps.

 

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:25 pm 
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If I remember correctly, Papa Smurf said his dealership still had a couple in stock.

Not cheap though :S
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:31 pm 
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Thanks for the ideas.
I nearly got a universal joint new but the company got taken over and dont make them any more.
I may have a lead on a second hand one but hes asking if I have a fine spline or a corse spline.
There must be two different types as well.
Only way to tell apparently is to take it off, it will be next week before I can do that.

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:39 pm 
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I'm afraid I don't know Papa smurf ?
How could I find out if he can sell me one?
I'm pretty certain the part number is EL3C662B

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:50 pm 
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He's a user on here... Just look him up.

There is a thread called "Ask Papa Smurf" on here somewhere where he mentions the part number and what he has in regards to the intermediate shaft.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:33 pm 
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Matey, we have 2 EL 6cyl ones left in stock even though they are obsolete.
Would be looking at around $250.00 I think.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:39 pm 
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Bowmanr wrote:
I may have a lead on a second hand one but hes asking if I have a fine spline or a corse spline.
EL is a*** spline (steering rack pinion end), they're also shorter than the earlier E series ones, most likely to make them interchangeable between the EL SSPS and non SSPS steering racks.
Be a trailblazer, rebuild one :P .

 

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:36 pm 
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Thank you Papa Smurf
I'm afraid mine is the V8 one.


Thanks also to Snap0964
I think you are saying it is a c_o_r_s_e spline. (mispelt on purpose)
It put asterixs in your reply - I think its some kind of automatic thingy trying to block particular words?

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 Post subject: Re: El falcon steering universal joint
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:38 pm 
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Pretty sure someone mentioned the only difference between the I6 ande V8 ones are the V8 ones have a head shield wrapped around shaft.

The heat shield probably add's $100 to the cost of the V8 one.

So just be a matter of getting and I6 one and swapping the wrapping from one to the other. :D
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:25 pm 
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Bowmanr wrote:
It put asterixs in your reply - I think its some kind of automatic thingy trying to block particular words?
Yeah, the filter can be turned off/on in your prefs.

arm79 wrote:
Pretty sure someone mentioned the only difference between the I6 ande V8 ones are the V8 ones have a head shield wrapped around shaft.
If that's that bell shaped shield, the I6's have them too.
They tap off very easily, they're not even spot welded on.

 

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