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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:29 pm 
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i have a stock as 1996 NL fairlane v8 and i want to drop it 5 - 6cm, does anyone know a place that sells springs with this amount of drop, i was told by repco that king spring dont do superlows for an NL :-(.


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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:52 pm 
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yeah mate king springs do do the springsfor the V8 NL's, but u dont want to put them in, s**t spring IMO.

If your going to lower, go something a little better, pedders or whitleine. little more exspensive, but much better ride and quality.

I am in the process now of deciding between pedders and whiteline, but i have been told that pedders is the way togo with the LWB. so prob leaning more towards them.

And the superlows will drop u about 50mm from original ride hieght.

Hope that helps mate.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fairlane Suspension
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:00 pm 
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SDFGH_54 wrote:
i have a stock as 1996 NL fairlane v8 and i want to drop it 5 - 6cm, does anyone know a place that sells springs with this amount of drop, i was told by repco that king spring dont do superlows for an NL :-(.


any help or advice welcome.


Does it still have the SLS installed in the back.

If so, you can just adjust the link that monitors the height and that will bring it down quickly and cheaply for you. ie $0 cost

If you want king superlows, then get them. Repco are F**k tools, and their catalogue is worse most of the time. Considering its the same a** end as any e-series, Falcon superlows will sit in just fine and dandy. If the car still has SLS as well, you will have to change the shock as well.
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:23 pm 
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50-60mmm is a big drop isnt it?
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 Post subject: Re: Fairlane Suspension
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:59 pm 
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arm79 wrote:
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i have a stock as 1996 NL fairlane v8 and i want to drop it 5 - 6cm, does anyone know a place that sells springs with this amount of drop, i was told by repco that king spring dont do superlows for an NL :-(.


any help or advice welcome.


Does it still have the SLS installed in the back.

If so, you can just adjust the link that monitors the height and that will bring it down quickly and cheaply for you. ie $0 cost

If you want king superlows, then get them. Repco are F**k tools, and their catalogue is worse most of the time. Considering its the same a** end as any e-series, Falcon superlows will sit in just fine and dandy. If the car still has SLS as well, you will have to change the shock as well.


you contradict yourself there abit, adjusting the level on the SLS lowers the pressure in the shock therefore giving you a very bouncy ride, they aren't valved correctly to run lower than where they are. there's 2 levels for SLS, one for LWB with ford suspension and one for LWB with Tickford suspension.

the rear end is the same as e-series but a LWB carries more weight and is distributed differently, that why they should have different springs and rates to SWB.

have a look at springs for a Tickford LWB (ie Concorde, FBT) from Pedders. that might give you the ride height your after.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fairlane Suspension
Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 2:50 pm 
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arm79 wrote:
SDFGH_54 wrote:
i have a stock as 1996 NL fairlane v8 and i want to drop it 5 - 6cm, does anyone know a place that sells springs with this amount of drop, i was told by repco that king spring dont do superlows for an NL :-(.


any help or advice welcome.


Does it still have the SLS installed in the back.

If so, you can just adjust the link that monitors the height and that will bring it down quickly and cheaply for you. ie $0 cost

If you want king superlows, then get them. Repco are F**k tools, and their catalogue is worse most of the time. Considering its the same a** end as any e-series, Falcon superlows will sit in just fine and dandy. If the car still has SLS as well, you will have to change the shock as well.


you contradict yourself there abit, adjusting the level on the SLS lowers the pressure in the shock therefore giving you a very bouncy ride, they aren't valved correctly to run lower than where they are. there's 2 levels for SLS, one for LWB with ford suspension and one for LWB with Tickford suspension.

the rear end is the same as e-series but a LWB carries more weight and is distributed differently, that why they should have different springs and rates to SWB.

have a look at springs for a Tickford LWB (ie Concorde, FBT) from Pedders. that might give you the ride height your after.


1. I never said that adjusting the arm would do any good. Just that it was a really cheap way of lowering the car. I've done it with success on mums NL, dropped it by about 10/15mm with no negative affects. And it also is a better option than pulling the SLS breaker out and letting it ride on the bump stops, like most people do.

2. Whiteline and Pedders dont list any products that would drop the back suspension the distance SDFGH_54 is looking for. And I believe that a number of FM members have run Fairlanes with King Superlows quite successfuly for a few years now. While I agree that NL's do carry a few extra kg, you can't dispute that S/L's have been used successfully on NF/NL Fairlanes before.
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:16 pm 
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Pull your head in, wasn't having a go.

Pedders does list lows for a Fairlane although the part numbers are the same for the Falcon. If SDFGH_54 has standard height now, using sports Ryder springs will lower him 2" or 5cm (whatever you prefer).

part number rears: 2130R Sports Ryder Coil Spring RH
2130L Sports Ryder Coil Spring LH
2180R Sports Ryder Coil Spring RH
2180L Sports Ryder Coil Spring LH

part number front: 2270 Sports Ryder Coil Spring


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dropped it by about 10/15mm with no negative affects.


You would find the ride to be different, not as firm because the shocks are softer and not at the pressure they are ment to be.

 

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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:35 pm 
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check out the pics in my gallery. before and after with super low fronts and low rears(Gas tank). i have since changed it to low front std non srs rear because the ride is not comfortable. Springs for sale only 500km use, Lovells

 

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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:40 pm 
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so in the after pics in ur user gallery. are they lows in front and standard springs in rear then? did get what u said in ur post. sorry

 

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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:01 pm 
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hey all, thanks for the replys

i have removed the SLS and replaced with HD shock's (the sls was leaking somewhere and thawt it was easier to replace with shocks)

i rang king springs and they said that the ED - EL XR8 springs would fit fine
KFFL-52SL (front) & KFRL-27SLHD (rear) that was 155$ a pair

i also rang pedders and they didnt give me a measurement of drop but they did give a price for the sports ryder
front was 164$ and rear 180$ a pair

if what concorde said was true about the 5cm drop ill be happy with that from the pedders,

lots of people have complained about king springs, i have used them on 2 previous cars and didnt see or feel any problems but they were light jap cars.

my decision is the pedders..... Thanks everyone

ill post some photo's when its done :-)

 

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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:45 pm 
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That King Spring price is rec retail.

Normally can be bought for $85 to $120 depending where you go. $85 is the trade figure from Burson or Repco.
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:49 pm 
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154 is exe! my before pics are std front hd rear. after pics s low front low rear.

 

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:55 pm 
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wtf do you want to go that low for?

 

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:03 pm 
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i want to go that low because its not a daily driver...... and itll just look wikked as with 19's.

and in sa, its not hard to get it off defect, xpecially since im in a country town.

 

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:05 pm 
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try eastside performance centre on oaklands road at glengowrie they spoecialise in hydrolics and lowering of suspensions. especially fords

 

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