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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:31 pm 
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hey guys,

just wondering if i can get some help on suspension mods to my EL gli that will give me less body roll. effectiveness of lowering/harder sway bars/different shocks etc in reducing body roll.

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:49 pm 
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lowering on it's own makes a massive difference,

and even just upgrading to a swaybar that's 1mm bigger than your current one will be noticable in the twisty bits
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:54 pm 
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lower suspension vie xr spec springs/shocks ie lows
larger diam swaybars

just dont go to big on the rear sway bar as it will cause oversteer

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:07 pm 
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lower suspension vie xr spec springs/shocks ie lows
larger diam swaybars

just dont go to big on the rear sway bar as it will cause oversteer


so i should only go to king lows all round, not superlows?.....should i change standard shocks to xr ones (is there a difference?) or aftermarket ones or will standard falcon ones be fine? (i am on a bit of a budget :oops: )

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:07 pm 
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on the topic of suspension and sway bars. sway/strut bars for the front? where do they go? cause i mean the TB is kinda in the way of putting a strut bar going across the engine bay......or do they run underneath the car? and where do the rear ones go cheers

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:15 pm 
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the rear one is on the back attatched to the LSD, its the thing with the pivot in the middle and from that a bar going out to each side....havent had a proper look at the front one

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:20 pm 
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Whiteline swaybar front and back!

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:00 pm 
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phongus wrote:
on the topic of suspension and sway bars. sway/strut bars for the front? where do they go? cause i mean the TB is kinda in the way of putting a strut bar going across the engine bay......or do they run underneath the car? and where do the rear ones go cheers

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sway bar under the car,

strut brace is what ur thinking of.

ive been told they have little effect on falcons due to their suspension setup? strut braces that is

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:47 pm 
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Don't confuse what each part does!!!

Control the body roll with anti-roll bars, NOT with springs!!
Control the pitch & bound with springs & shocks.
Control the rebound with shocks.
Alter the roll centre with the ride height.


& read this if you want your E series to handle better.
http://www.whiteline.com.au/articles/TF ... alcona.htm

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:50 pm 
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skidder wrote:
the rear one is on the back attatched to the LSD, its the thing with the pivot in the middle and from that a bar going out to each side....havent had a proper look at the front one


:shock: that is the watts link!!! Read the article!!

The 'Know what you're talking about" add comes to mind :roll:

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:59 pm 
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^^ what has been said, whiteline adjustable sway bars front and rear! make a HUGE difference, there is a difference between being hard sprung and reducing body roll.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:29 am 
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skidder wrote:
the rear one is on the back attatched to the LSD, its the thing with the pivot in the middle and from that a bar going out to each side....havent had a proper look at the front one


i believe this is the Watts link... not a sway bar. the watts link keeps the live axle centred, doesnt do the job of a sway bar..



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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:34 am 
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sam12h wrote:
Don't confuse what each part does!!!

Control the body roll with anti-roll bars, NOT with springs!!
Control the pitch & bound with springs & shocks.
Control the rebound with shocks.
Alter the roll centre with the ride height.


& read this if you want your E series to handle better.
http://www.whiteline.com.au/articles/TF ... alcona.htm


thanks for the info. =D just wondering for 1349 you get the front and rear sway bars, and the control arms and springs?

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:55 am 
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yeah i was guessing

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:33 am 
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phongus wrote:
thanks for the info. =D just wondering for 1349 you get the front and rear sway bars, and the control arms and springs?


That article is pretty old, it just does a good job of explaning the mods needed to get an E series to handle. The prices are higher nowadays so see Whitlines online store for current pricing. K mac also do sway bars (adjustable or non) & there are many companies making springs & shocks, but Whiteline has 'tuned' theirs for the complete package. I think Whiteline is also the only place to get a rear upper control arm with the better pivot point (apart from a Tickford wreck).

 

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