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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:11 pm 
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Yooo my homies (he he)

well, i'm gonna buy a second car an (ea wagon) as a run around car... whilst mine is behind the house getting fixed when my cbf factor reaches a reading.

the wagon is here, i just gotta pay for it... or pay it off.. anyway so with the spare cash... how much $$ am i after to buy lowering blocks for the leaf springs... and will it affect diff/tailshaft/gearbox (AUTO) ? i heard it would affect a manual gear box. ?

i want the wagon to sit on its a***... like so the wheels are just under the guards or lower, on 15" stockies lol :P
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:03 pm 
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DO NOT BUY lowering block
they are baad ok

get some lower rear leaf springs installed

OR rip yours out and get them re set lower with an extra leaf put in

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:08 pm 
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ok how much will that set me back for the joint to take 'em out, reset 'em.. and put them back in?

how much would it set me back to buy new or whatever lower leaf springs .. on their own and not installed?

rough prices will do

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:44 am 
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no idea mate call up a suspension joint and ask

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:41 am 
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I don't know what is so bad about lowering blocks, they keep the spring in it's original eliptical shape as there meant to be not flattening them out. A good quality set from say Lovell's ($105) is milled from a solid block of alumnium use flat stamped U bolts and locking nuts. For $75 (have same features as Lovell's) off E-bay they are a whole lot cheaper and easier than getting your springs reset.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:08 am 
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King Spring do lowered rear leaf springs. Whiteline also do the lowering blocks.
I've still yet to understand why lowering blocks are ment to be so bad? There so piss easy to install.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:29 am 
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i have lowering blocks on my wagon. dont have a problem with them, cant see why there would be a problem either.

why do you say they are so bad Frank?

I got mine off a mate who took them out of his XD and he fitted them for a carton of beer.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:50 pm 
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If they were so bad they would be illegal in Victoria! I guess its mainly for the suspension travel. But for a cheap lowering blocks do the job. If it was me i would do it properly with reset springs and an extra leaf.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:31 pm 
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i had an ef xr6 wagon and had lowering blocks in the back of that. it was also a manual. never had any hint of a drama. i got mine from pedders and i thought you couldn't get more than 2" lowering blocks and if thats the case you wont get the back of the ea down over the tyre. xr wagons also had 5 leaf rear end. maybe chase down some ute leaf springs and put them in with the blocks to get it a bit stiffer as well.

pics of wagon are in my gallery if you want to see height of rear with 2" blocks.

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:37 pm 
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lowering blocks don't change anything except the ride height... try taking a corner with lowering blocks with an EL wagon that corners like a boat.. then put lowering blocks in..
yeah just get new leaf springs.. they are also piss easy to install.
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:09 pm 
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AdamN wrote:
lowering blocks don't change anything except the ride height... try taking a corner with lowering blocks with an EL wagon that corners like a boat.. then put lowering blocks in..
yeah just get new leaf springs.. they are also piss easy to install.


whs ^^^

lowering blocks make the car handle worse and DROP the load carrying capicty of the wagon or ute

get soem lowered springs and handling goes up, looks go up and u dont loose
load carrying

do the job the correct way not the dogy easy way

ohh yes adam soo easy to fit hey.... 5hrs

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:15 pm 
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Disco Frank wrote:
ohh yes adam soo easy to fit hey.... 5hrs


If we had to do it again the rears wouldn't take more than an hour or two hahaha
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:38 pm 
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ya good point

maybe if i had the correct deep socket set....

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:55 pm 
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how do they make the car handle worse?? i realise the spring rate will remain the same but the centre of gravity will be lower. i can tell you from experience the handling is improved. the way some people talk about handling you would think they are trying for a 2.06 around bathurst. its a wagon for crying out loud. i used to throw mine round a fair bit and it handled as good as it needed to on the street.

load capacity will be the same except you might bottom out a little bit if you really load it up. i've had a tonne of dirt in a trailer hooked on the back of mine and it was o.k. i've also travelled to qld and back many times fully loaded and not had any dramas.

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:05 pm 
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Lowering blocks reduce load capacity. You will also bottom out if you take corners too fast (40km/h at a roundabout will do it)..
oh and speed bumps.. hahaha good luck with those if you have it lowered with the standard spring rate
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