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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:46 pm 
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Hey, I have an Eb sedan 6cyl with 4 DBA slotted rotors. I have just put a service kit thru the front calipers and replaced the pads with bendix.
However they still overheat shockingly and after two hard stops from about 100km/h I have no brakes.
I just flushed the system and all seem fine.
Also it seems to be chewing apart brake pads way too fast. Like 4 to 6 months a set on the fronts.
Any ideas?

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:56 pm 
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You ma have air in the system still. Sometimes you'll have to bleed them a couple times to get it all out.

Also how did you bleed them? Always do right front, left front, right rear, left rear, in that order. Position is as you sit in the car. And not with the motor running.

Sounds simple, but it's incredible how many people have been taught the wrong way.
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:59 pm 
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Also bed them in softly. No hard braking for the first week or so. If you are going to brake hard to test them, do it when it's cold otherwise you'll glaze the pads.

I know that the slotted are supposed to stop the glazing, but only to a certain extent.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:10 am 
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My old EB had less than confidence-building brakes. Something to consider; the EB2 brake calipre had a rubber shoe for whatever reason. A lot of my problems were related to sticking brakes remaining in contact with the disks for longer than necessary. I went to a number of repairers who would free-up those calipres, only one actually replaced those rubber shoes. That pretty much solved my problem.

Compared to my EF however, my EB barely had brakes at all.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:11 pm 
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You ma have air in the system still. Sometimes you'll have to bleed them a couple times to get it all out.

Also how did you bleed them? Always do right front, left front, right rear, left rear, in that order. Position is as you sit in the car. And not with the motor running.

Sounds simple, but it's incredible how many people have been taught the wrong way.



I think we bled them rear left, rear right, front left, front right. Could that be a reason?

I noticed that the rubber shoe had popped over the little lip so I popped it back in.

I had the opportunity to ride in a new xr8 with the herrod brake package the other day!
It feels like you've driven into quicksand, deployed a parrashute, and hit a brick wall all in a micro second! Very impressive, especially compared to the wood plank on tyre, billy cark type brakes on my eb.

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:15 pm 
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I think we bled them rear left, rear right, front left, front right. Could that be a reason?


is the proper way of doing it. when bleeding brakes you start from the calliper or wheel cylinder that is the longest distance from the master cylinder in terms of line length.

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:22 pm 
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I think we bled them rear left, rear right, front left, front right. Could that be a reason?


is the proper way of doing it. when bleeding brakes you start from the calliper or wheel cylinder that is the longest distance from the master cylinder in terms of line length.
yup thats the right way for sure always bleed the brake that is furthest from the master cylinder!
we i did mine it took 4 bleeds to get all the air out and the pedal to feel right.

as for the 2 stops well thats all i got out my au xr6 with slotted rotors and bendix ultimate pads
upgrade to bigger rotors and twin piston calipers and u should see a marked improvement in braking

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:51 pm 
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Perhaps you can contact Joe at Crescent Motorsports in Liverpool. He's a bit of a Ford specialist, and he'll be able to suggest something that's right for your car. Don't forget to mention that you're from Fordmods :wink:

 

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