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 Post subject: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:02 pm 
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hi
ive been searching but have failed to find any info
basically i will be doing a rebuild in a few months
im hoping 160-180rwkw 150rwkw is a definate though

i love driving manual and since i was going to rebuild the auto at the same time i thought why not do a manual coversion

will the t5 handle that power?
what can i do/whats available in the way of strengthening them??
anyone recommend a clutch for that power and up to 200rwkw (security lol)???

thanks for any help
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:01 pm 
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Shouldn't need to touch the t5 with that power mate.
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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:11 pm 
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from what I remember after reading a fair bit...you wouldn't have to worry up until 200rwkw or something. Along the lines of 250rwkw...

I'm running close to 150rwkw with a standard EF T5 that had done 170000km on it before I got my hand to it.

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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:41 pm 
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what are rebuild kits worth? as id prefer to buy one thats done some kms and rebuild it so i know how much pounding its had
also any ideas on the clutch??

what should i pay for a coversion kit eg gearbox pedal box shifter +surround NO ECU

good to know i dont need to strengthen it :D
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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:51 pm 
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djcustomcomputing wrote:
what are rebuild kits worth? as id prefer to buy one thats done some kms and rebuild it so i know how much pounding its had
also any ideas on the clutch??

what should i pay for a coversion kit eg gearbox pedal box shifter +surround NO ECU

good to know i dont need to strengthen it :D


I paid $50 bucks for the conversion after selling the auto and ECU. I got lucky, but had to drive for 3 hours to get it.

You can get complete conversion kits for about $500ish (no ECU) if you're lucky. Not sure what standard price is these days for conversions, but I wouldn't pay more then $1000 for one.

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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:57 pm 
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how much could i sell the auto conversion for out of curiosity the autos in very good order
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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:03 pm 
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how much could i sell the auto conversion for out of curiosity the autos in very good order


IIRC, I sold mine for $220 or something. It was still in perfect working order, just needed an oil change. Transmission had done about 160000kms or so. I am unsure as to pricing now though. I'd say at a guestimate, $200 - 250 for quick sale, $300 - 350 for standard sale rate, $400 - 500 if you have patience.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:05 pm 
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also what model boxes fit in an au?
and do i need a tailshaft
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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:07 pm 
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djcustomcomputing wrote:
also what model boxes fit in an au?
and do i need a tailshaft


That I am not sure, I will leave that for someone else :D...

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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:44 pm 
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I know theres a place in the US that sells rebuild kits on eBay, http://stores.ebay.com.au/THE-GEAR-BOX not sure if its strengthening or not but they'd be worth a look if you're rebuilding as i'm about to do

 

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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:10 pm 
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Well if you want to go the whole hog check these out, these are rated for 600hp and 550ftlbs in a 3000lbs car running drag radials. HHHEEELLL YYYEEEAAAHHH :D :D :D

http://www.libertysgears.com/faceplate.htm
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:51 pm 
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lol
hey ill keep that in mind for when im approaching 600hp
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:00 am 
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It is a good idea to swap the tailshafts to a manual one, nearly all the auto tailshafts one have this great big (round balancer like a harmonic balancer) where the shaft goes into the box, I don't know what its called, or why its there .... and its funny, not all cars had it??? thats what gets me,

I've never seen a standard manual falcon come out the factory with one of those balancers on the shaft. all i know is, if that balancer moves or gets damaged, your tail shaft is going to bounce away inside your gearbox, and it will stuff the metal bush in the extension housing!

just what i've learned from work.

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phongus wrote:
djcustomcomputing wrote:
also what model boxes fit in an au?
and do i need a tailshaft


That I am not sure, I will leave that for someone else :D...

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 Post subject: Re: strengthening t5 gearbox
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:42 am 
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Sommers NL wrote:
It is a good idea to swap the tailshafts to a manual one, nearly all the auto tailshafts one have this great big (round balancer like a harmonic balancer) where the shaft goes into the box, I don't know what its called, or why its there .... and its funny, not all cars had it??? thats what gets me,

I've never seen a standard manual falcon come out the factory with one of those balancers on the shaft. all i know is, if that balancer moves or gets damaged, your tail shaft is going to bounce away inside your gearbox, and it will stuff the metal bush in the extension housing!

just what i've learned from work.

Laticia.


Thats funny, I've never seen a Manual without it, I've seen plenty of Auto's with smaller ones.

Wagons have the same size as Manuals, most likely because of the length of the tail shaft and its for noise and vibration suppression.
Also most T5's have a Steel weight on the bottom of the box too.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:46 am 
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Im not sure then, I guess when im at work taking out boxes out of falcons, i never really bother looking to see if they have a balancer bar
I've got two other cars here, a auto ED that does not have one, and a manual EB2 that does not have one, they are both factory 5spds, well, the cars are not here, they are down at work ...

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Sommers NL wrote:
It is a good idea to swap the tailshafts to a manual one, nearly all the auto tailshafts one have this great big (round balancer like a harmonic balancer) where the shaft goes into the box, I don't know what its called, or why its there .... and its funny, not all cars had it??? thats what gets me,

I've never seen a standard manual falcon come out the factory with one of those balancers on the shaft. all i know is, if that balancer moves or gets damaged, your tail shaft is going to bounce away inside your gearbox, and it will stuff the metal bush in the extension housing!

just what i've learned from work.

Laticia.


Thats funny, I've never seen a Manual without it, I've seen plenty of Auto's with smaller ones.

Wagons have the same size as Manuals, most likely because of the length of the tail shaft and its for noise and vibration suppression.
Also most T5's have a Steel weight on the bottom of the box too.

 

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