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 Post subject: Suspension Differances
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:29 am 
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Hi all.

is there any differances between the EB & EL front suspension pieces (other than k frame) as i have an EL i'm about to cut up/strip and was thinking if using it on the EB.

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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:45 pm 
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Stub axles are different AFAIK, the lower control arms and the Strut rods. This is info I remember when I was still in spares ( 6 year gap unfortunately)
I also remember that putting EF/EL wheels on EB's was slightly problematic.
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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:48 pm 
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Papa Smurf wrote:
Stub axles are different AFAIK, the lower control arms and the Strut rods. This is info I remember when I was still in spares ( 6 year gap unfortunately)


ok! .. that's what i needed to know, so i will strip & replace what's on the EB.


Papa Smurf wrote:
I also remember that putting EF/EL wheels on EB's was slightly problematic.


do you remember why? as i like the EL wheels on it.


Thanks tho Papa Smurf.
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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:42 pm 
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I found this which really doesn't explain properly but??
ford-bodykits-f15/e-series-wheel-offset-t3936.html

I remember that Genuine EF Ford alloys (15") wouldn't fit properly on my EB as they fouled the caliper, They were okay with a 10mm spacer though?
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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:37 pm 
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Papa Smurf wrote:
I found this which really doesn't explain properly but??
ford-bodykits-f15/e-series-wheel-offset-t3936.html



JOSE wrote:
PCD is 5*114.3, offset is +10mm, stud diameter is 1/2 inch,

length is different between EA-ED and EF upwards (they are 5mm longer), AU falcons have a different offset at +38mm


if you mean the length [?] is that not about the stud length?



Papa Smurf wrote:
I remember that Genuine EF Ford alloys (15") wouldn't fit properly on my EB as they fouled the caliper, They were okay with a 10mm spacer though?



hmmm there are EF alloys on the other EB & the EL alloys went on no probs with this EB. shall inspect & make sure tho.

Thanks tho :mrgreen:
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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:51 am 
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Pre EF wheel studs are shorter, EL lower arm pivot bushes are larger, EL K frame radius rod front mounting has a welded ring on the front for extra firmness. EFII/EL front uprights have the lower ball joint mounted 5mm higher - visible with a 95DA number inboard near the lower ball joint mounting. Tierod stud hole in different spot on pre EF uprights.
EL front swaybar D brackets are dimpled to locate the bushes.

First I've heard re the wheel fitments - I thought all E series had +6 offset. Front calipers are all same E series - except EL GT and FBT which have twin piston C4 calipers.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:12 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
Pre EF wheel studs are shorter, EL lower arm pivot bushes are larger, EL K frame radius rod front mounting has a welded ring on the front for extra firmness. EFII/EL front uprights have the lower ball joint mounted 5mm higher - visible with a 95DA number inboard near the lower ball joint mounting. Tierod stud hole in different spot on pre EF uprights.
EL front swaybar D brackets are dimpled to locate the bushes.



that's what i want to know! .. Thanks for that info Snap.


snap0964 wrote:
First I've heard re the wheel fitments - I thought all E series had +6 offset. Front calipers are all same E series - except EL GT and FBT which have twin piston C4 calipers.



ok i'll bite..... what's the FBT?
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:54 pm 
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https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/ ... kford.html

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:26 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1998/1007180/ford_fairlane_tickford.html



sorry .... can you put it into layman's terms??
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:53 pm 
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http://www.gtho4.com/tickford/tickford-fairlane.html

 

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 Post subject: Re: Suspension Differances
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:34 pm 
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Mad2 wrote:

sorry .... can you put it into layman's terms??


FBT = Fairlane by Tickford





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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:29 pm 
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*Raptor* wrote:
Mad2 wrote:

sorry .... can you put it into layman's terms??


FBT = Fairlane by Tickford





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LOL!!

yep that's plain as......... :mrgreen:
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