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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:35 am 
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Can someone tell me the difference between the BTR transmissions 85LE, 91LE and 95LE, and what model years used which ones.

I hazard a guess to say that the 85LE was in the EA's but what about the other two?

Any help appreciated.

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:58 am 
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Can someone tell me the difference between the BTR transmissions 85LE, 91LE and 95LE, and what model years used which ones.

I hazard a guess to say that the 85LE was in the EA's but what about the other two?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers
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85LE - EA s2 (s1 got the old BW 51 3 speed)
95LE - EB, ED, EF, EL, AU

Not 100% sure about the differences, I think the 95LE has different ratios.

Couldn't find much about the 91LE, doesn't look like they were used for long, mainly about the EB S1 era from what I've seen.

 

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:51 am 
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95LE has different ratios and is a V8 box.

91LE: EB-ED, has external band adjusters.

93LE: EF - AU, possibly into BA? Dipstick deleted early EF's.

 

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:19 pm 
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I found this on the web, hopefully it will help out others:

Ford EA 11/EB 1988-93 Ford 4.0/3.9L BTR 85LE Automatic Transmission
Ford EB/EB11 1991-93 Ford 4.0L BTR 91LE Automatic Transmission
Ford EB/EB 11 1991-93 Ford 5.0L BTR 95LE Automatic Transmission
Ford ED 1993-94 Ford 4.0L BTR 91LE Automatic Transmission
Ford ED 5.0L 1993-94 Ford 5.0L BTR 95LE Automatic Transmission
Ford EF 1994-96 Ford 4.0L BTR 93LE Automatic Transmission
Ford EF 5.0L 1994-96 Ford 5.0L BTR 97LE Automatic Transmission

Now, knowing this is a bit of a bummer. My ED wagon has a cooked/water damaged trans and I only have spare 85LE's. Seeing as the 91LE is controlled via the main ECU and not on a separate trans ECU, I will need to find another 91LE for the ED.

How much will one of them set me back - EB II to ED 4spd Auto?

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:31 pm 
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Hi RD

As I am using an EL ECU to run my EB 91LE BTR, I don't see why the ED ECU wouldn't run the 85LE BTR provided the plugs on the boxes for the looms are the same.

Snap? do you have any opinion on this?

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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:46 pm 
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Hi Ben

I was wondering that very thing this afternoon. I checked out all the EA's I have and they have the trans ECU next to the brake pedal. Then, after reading my workshop manual, all it says it that the 85LE is run by a spearate ECU and the 91LE is run by the main ECU - nothing about difference in actual trans electronics.

The ECU I have for the ED is actually from an EB II, the same one as yours which is currently in the car. I would say the ED one died because of the water.

P.S. I am glad you used RD - that's what I am known as on my forum and I am more used to that that signing my name all the time! :)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:51 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
95LE has different ratios and is a V8 box.

91LE: EB-ED, has external band adjusters.

93LE: EF - AU, possibly into BA? Dipstick deleted early EF's.


Hi snap0964 , " 95LE has different ratios and is a V8 box " do you happen to know the specifications on the actual ratio differences ?

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Nah, I was wrong - gear ratios are the same as the I6's, shift points and torque converter stall differ though.

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:25 am 
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Transmission BTR 72LE , 85LE , 91LE , 95LE , 97LE ?

there are a few series of BTR's mmmmmm which is which ?

a few have been mention in this thread , what number series is the BA 6/8 cylinder one ?

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 Post subject: Re: What transmissions in what years?
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:26 am 
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Hiya. I have a 1994 XG ute. It had the 4.0 litre multipoint & 91le transmission in it. The engine died so I found a cheap NA fairlane with the same engine. I removed the Engine & trans from both cars and fitted the Fairlane package to the XG ute. The problems I am encountering are that the fairlane trans is a btr 85 le (not like the original XG 91 le) and fits with no problem :mrgreen: But on test driving the XG ute it shifts a little funny and will not select/ go to converter lock up :evil: I fear I will have to rebuild the orginal unit out of the XG ( it was replaced due to shift problems) and exchange the transmissions.
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