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 Post subject: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:43 am 
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Hey guys,

I got my parents' old 1995 EF GLI Wagon a couple of years ago for $500 and drove it into the ground. I eventually decided to spend a bit of cash and get it running again, if not a lot more powerful.

So a couple of months ago I took it to a bloke in Selby, who did a Auto-Manual conversion and dropped in a 4.0ltr 6cyl BA motor with a BF loom. It made a huge difference to the power and reliability! He had to cut a bit out of the underside of the bonnet to make it fit. I was a bit worried that I might need a new bonnet.

I plan on doing everything I can to convert the interior to BF. The first step I've made towards that is that I bought myself a set of front and rear XR BF seats, which will be installed over the next week or two (and I'll be posting plenty of pics of that).

I've attached some pics of the build so far and a shot of the seats I'm getting.

Since these pictures, I've modified the air box to fit the Pod Filter inside.

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:01 pm 
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Oh, a complete list of mods that I've done so far:

2.5" Redback single muffler catback exhaust
Airbox mod to fit SAAS Pod filter
'03 BA Barra 182 Engine
Auto to '95 T5 5 Speed Manual Transmission conversion
Kenwood CD/Mp3/iPod/Bluetooth Head-Unit
2 x Kenwood 6.5" in the front
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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:05 pm 
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has it been engineered and did he cut the k frame? im sure he would of because it wouldnt fit other wise, and it would need an engineer cert

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:12 pm 
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Was going to ask the same about legalities on engineering stuff.

Either way, how much did the conversion end up costing you...with or without engineers certificate?

Looks like a good job on the conversion, but some pictures on the underside of the bonnet and K-frame would be good.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:16 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
has it been engineered and did he cut the k frame? im sure he would of because it wouldnt fit other wise, and it would need an engineer cert


Yeah he had to cut the K-Frame.



phongus wrote:
Was going to ask the same about legalities on engineering stuff.

Either way, how much did the conversion end up costing you...with or without engineers certificate?

Looks like a good job on the conversion, but some pictures on the underside of the bonnet and K-frame would be good.


The conversion cost me all up $4,750 for the new motor and the auto-manual conversion.

I'll get some pics next time I'm with my car in the daylight haha... Stupid work.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:18 pm 
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he would have to take the car to a place that can do engineer certs and the car needs to be checked over,

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:27 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
he would have to take the car to a place that can do engineer certs and the car needs to be checked over,


Unless of course the mechanic himself is able to legally supply one.

Either way, hopefully they give you an engineers cert, it will be much easier for you when you sell the car as a whole. If it's stated in the receipt that an engineers cert. was to be given with the quoted price, then I suggest you chase for one whenever you have spare time. If they don't supply, can always call the ombudsman.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:31 pm 
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phongus wrote:
bry40l wrote:
he would have to take the car to a place that can do engineer certs and the car needs to be checked over,


Unless of course the mechanic himself is able to legally supply one.

Either way, hopefully they give you an engineers cert, it will be much easier for you when you sell the car as a whole. If it's stated in the receipt that an engineers cert. was to be given with the quoted price, then I suggest you chase for one whenever you have spare time. If they don't supply, can always call the ombudsman.

yep dont let him stoog ya if he said he would and its on the recipt chase it up

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Well the mechanic said that the guy who did the welding was legally able to supply it. Do you know which division of the ombudsman to contact? I only really know of the TIO (Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman).

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:40 pm 
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if u plan n putting the b series dash in i'd recomend getting another car as a daily if that wagon is a daily
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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:26 pm 
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drummer.ash wrote:
Well the mechanic said that the guy who did the welding was legally able to supply it. Do you know which division of the ombudsman to contact? I only really know of the TIO (Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman).

Hey ash, I said to you that the guy was a boiler maker & that he can write you a docket regarding the weld that you would need for a engineers report, i never said we would get you a engineers report for you thats something you need to do your self. The welder in interstate at the moment and im unable to contact him for the docket. Cheers Owen.
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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:43 pm 
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Thanks for the heads up Owen, and sorry about the confusion. I'll get back to you once I've spoken to an engineer.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF to BA/BF Conversion (Wagon)
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:53 pm 
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Update:
Last weekend my brother and I managed to get the driver seat installed, it took a little bit of modifying the mounts, but it all worked in the end!

When it came to the electrics for this seat, we were a little confused about the fact that there were 4 wires running from the plug.
It turned out to be exceptionally easy, just a positive and negative were needed in the end. Ended up just being a 5 minute wiring job.

Anywho, the driver's seat is fully installed and good to go, now just to finish off what we've started with the back seats. :?

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