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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:08 pm 
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I'm now toying with the idea of 275/60 tyres on 20"x9.5" rims for my BA wagon offroader concept. It would sure stand out, and need engineering certification.

Anyway, some more pics of my EL offroader, this time the positive lead i ran under the car for my rear battery.

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:43 am 
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A battery lead cable tied to the fuel lines in any vehicle much less a vehicle that goes off road!!!!
Sorry to say but that is one of the most stupid and dangerous modifications I have ever seen!
Besides the fact that it is massively illegal.
It is not something to be proud of must less post a picture of it.
I honestly sat back and said nothing about this build before because it is whatever floats your boat , but that is just plain and utterly stupid.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:28 pm 
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Why didn't you run the cable through the interior???

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:13 pm 
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A battery lead cable tied to the fuel lines in any vehicle much less a vehicle that goes off road!!!!
Sorry to say but that is one of the most stupid and dangerous modifications I have ever seen!
Besides the fact that it is massively illegal.
It is not something to be proud of must less post a picture of it.
I honestly sat back and said nothing about this build before because it is whatever floats your boat , but that is just plain and utterly stupid.

So you're thinking that i could say grind the fuel line and cable between a rock and the underside of the car and destroy the (double) sheath on the cable and then arc it to the underside of the car and ignite the fuel? I didn't really think of that occuring. The risk is low, but that's no reason to tempt fate.

Is it really illegal, what is the essence of the illegality?

I'll definitely think about this.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:17 pm 
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Why didn't you run the cable through the interior???

I did that on my EBII but the revised method was easier and a shorter run.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:19 pm 
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Put it this way.
Run the car over a rock , have the rock move or the car fall off it. Happens all the time off road.
Drop the weight of the car onto the cable on a sharp piece of rock.
The rock will easily split/pierce the cable.
It may not happen then but further down the track the cable moves around and rubs the exposed conductors against the steel fuel lines. They are connected to the body of the car and are an earth point.
The cable grounds out against the line , dropping 450 odd amps into the line.
The line aint going to stay in one piece for long.
Sparks and fuel dont mix.
Thus why it is also illegal.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:27 pm 
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The essence of the legality is that you have anchored something to the fuel line. If the calbe gets caught and dragged then there is a chance that the anchor point ( the fuel line) could tear, hence a fuel leak, and its not so much as arcing to be worried about but hot driveline components.

Common sense really
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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:40 pm 
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Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:04 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:05 pm 
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what an interesting concept, i have always wondered if someone out there had done it, soo many stories about falcons going where 4x4's cant (traction or something i dunno not my story)

i like the look of this, id go different wheels tho, and with the comment about falling from a rock and smashing fuel line and cable.. even if it wasnt attached to the fuel lines it can still snap both on a rock.. not saying its right or wrong, im just saying its possible to still split both on a rock even if anchored separately. maybe run it down the other side off the hand brake cable?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm 
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Here you go, Kingswood on a GQ chassis with a chev diesel!

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I wanna see that done to a falcon :mrgreen:

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:25 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:06 pm 
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:D ha this is heaps cool man keep up the good work!
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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:33 am 
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You could fit up AU IRS to the rear of the EL to give you more weight and a little more clearance under the diff.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL Fairmont Offroader
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:31 am 
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what an interesting concept, i have always wondered if someone out there had done it, soo many stories about falcons going where 4x4's cant (traction or something i dunno not my story)

Earlier i mentioned that the falcon has as much wheel travel as the average 4wd. It has more than many. It may be quicker for me to tell you how many 4wd's have more travel, than less. It has more than a pajero, jackaroo, and pathfinder for instance. More than most mid-size 4wd's, but less than most full size. Less than a coil sprung patrol, landcruiser, land rover.

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i like the look of this, id go different wheels tho,

I still have the original fairmont alloys but i don't like the look of them and they are only 6.5" wide. Some 16" would look nicer i reckon but then again with more mods so would 20".


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and with the comment about falling from a rock and smashing fuel line and cable.. even if it wasnt attached to the fuel lines it can still snap both on a rock.. not saying its right or wrong, im just saying its possible to still split both on a rock even if anchored separately. maybe run it down the other side off the hand brake cable?

I think the greatest risk is a stick snagging the cable and ripping the fuel line out with it. I was always a bit worried about a stick snagging the cable. But consider that it is mostly well tucked.

You may not be able to detect it but i put the cable inside 13mm clear plastic tubing, i reckon the risk of all that getting graunched off on a rock without me noticing is low.

 

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