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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:14 am 
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Check all your fusible links to dude.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:30 pm 
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Right, found what the problem was :oops: Theres a plug that comes off the negative terminal on the battery (if it were in the engine bay) which goes into the engine loom near the main fuses, this is very hard to push together and wasn't connected :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

SO! Now everything works...except...for the throttle and fuel gauge. The throttle flicks open for a fraction of a second when you turn the keys to 'on', i imagine this is the ECM doing a self check, but the pedal has no effect. The fuel gauge reads full for about 5 seconds the drops to empty.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:03 pm 
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Don't know about the fuel gauge but I am guessing the ECU calibration is now out. Perhaps an ECU reset by leaving the battery off for a while will help.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:53 pm 
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What did you join all those cables together with when you shifted and relocated your engine bay loom? Double check everything that you have played with, ohm meter will help here.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:05 am 
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Basically, everything is connected EXACTLY the way it was when the battery was in the engine bay, just that the main battery cables have been lengthened.

You did up the size of the cable, not just extend it??? Dont be surprised if you have a couple of volts difference, causing gauges etc' to not function correctly......Yeah, some of those plugs can be a b1tch to get apart, let alone connect...

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:29 am 
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I have 260amp earth lead running the full length of the car to the block from the battery and also have an earth lead attached to the body in the boot area

if you got a descent size eath point in the body i dont see why you would also need to run a 5-6ft long earth to the engine. ive heard people having simiar probs driving big stereo gear and running an earth cable from amp in boot to battery and then they cut it real short and earthed it to the body in the boot and fixed the problems. also most amp kits say earth must not be longer than 3 ft. either though im talkin cr4p about stereos it just an example of how car eletrics are funny like that.

i put a voltage stabilizer and earthing kit in my nissan, and earthed it at throttle body and ecu housing etc and the car idles smoother than ever. might be an idea because stray voltage can give false readings if some sensors have low voltage range (eg 0.1-0.9v and u have 0.2 stray voltage messing with signals giving false info to the ecu because of an average earth)

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:16 pm 
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The fuel gauge reads full for about 5 seconds the drops to empty.


my old xr8 did that and it turned out to be a bad connection to the fuel sender...
have you touched or bumped any wires near the fuel unit???
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:27 pm 
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Cheek the alternator! We are having the same problem with our EF!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:32 pm 
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Well we have the same problem in the EF, When we start it up the Fuel gauge drops, same as the RPM gauge and Temp and all.. We have changed BCM, ECU.. then got told it was the Alternator

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:35 pm 
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Ohk, i'll have a look at earthing problems on ours lol..

 

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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Electrical Problems =(
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Well, i finally finished off everything i can do on the Fairmont today. Installed new transmission and power steering lines and coolers, changed engine oil, filled with coolant, ATF and PSF. But, there are still problems.

I thought once the car was started that the throttle may become active again, not so. It took a few goes to eventually get the engine to start (in a way), but when it does start, it hardly idles and belches out thick black smoke. But wheather that's something to do with the XR6T MAP sensor and the ECM not being programmed for it, i'm not sure. I'm still stumped as to why the throttle has given up the ghost. Does the ECM earth through the stand it is rivited to? I've painted the stand and where it bolts down to the shock absorber bolts on the strut tower, isn't bolted down...

But anyway, here's a video of the first fire: {DESCRIPTION}
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:10 am 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:18 am 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.
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 Post subject: Re: Fordman351's DOHC Turbo EL Fairmont: Still Got Problems =(
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:24 pm 
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Hey dude, It will not run correctly with a 2bar map if it hasnt been flashed for it, It will go to shutdown mode where the throttle will not function.


Just put the factory MAP one and dont let it boost man.

Damn, for real!? I wish i'd known that before i'd cut and shut the wiring for the MAP sensor, if i put the old MAP sensor on, it's still not going to work properly :x
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