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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:57 pm 
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Crazy amount of work done man that's awesome, just got my au wagon on the road Tuesday, ended up selling the ED-BA project, rather just put $$$ to the daily etc.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:28 pm 
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Crazy amount of work done man that's awesome, just got my au wagon on the road Tuesday, ended up selling the ED-BA project, rather just put $$$ to the daily etc.....




u should be flogged sir!!



now that i have that off my chest . . . . . . . i can undastand that ... my auto has gone into 'her' AU, which now means i can put me manual conversion in lol :roll:
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:58 am 
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Mad2 wrote:
DOHCED wrote:
Crazy amount of work done man that's awesome, just got my au wagon on the road Tuesday, ended up selling the ED-BA project, rather just put $$$ to the daily etc.....




u should be flogged sir!!



now that i have that off my chest . . . . . . . i can undastand that ... my auto has gone into 'her' AU, which now means i can put me manual conversion in lol :roll:


My wife insisted I get her a Trajet, so I don't have to share my parts with her anymore and her EF wagon is now mine too. :-) It is soon to get all the bits off my old EL that got T boned by a commodore... so I'll be a pretty hot EF wagon soon. Got to get rid of the Hilux surf in the front yard first though. I've just resprayed that and all I have left is to put a kit though the turbo to stop it leaking into the exhaust and it goes for sale.. then I get to do the EF before shipping it to the farm in QLD. busy busy.
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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:19 am 
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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:20 am 
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Learning experience today. Pulled my first FG dash apart today. I read online someone saying that fg and BA/bf BEM are similar, but really they have almost nothing in common. Fg BEM is on its side in the same place that the E and A series had it. I have all the FG cluster and BEM plugs and some spare BA/bf jobs too. Now comes the fun part of getting the FG cluster working I'm a BA/bf. I expect that I'll end up wiring a FG BEM somewhere to get the cluster working but perhaps not, time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:41 am 
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Oh. I have a tip for the day.

To get a BA/BF rear vision mirror off without stuffing your windshield is easy as.

I ripped one off a wreck today to take a look and tested my theory on my own mirror this arvo. My mirror was off in seconds and my windscreen is unscathed. Get a thin long flat blade screwdriver with a head about 3mm wide.

The two tabs you see at the bottom of the windscreen sleeve (where it slides onto the bit that is glued to the windsheild)..... Ignore them and aim for the exact middle. Wiggle the tip up the middle between the tags, but not between the glass and the stuck tab, but between the metal tab stuck to the window and base of the mirror sleeve itself. Wiggle it right in there firmly and turn the screwdriver as if screwing in a screw, while pushing the mirror sleeve up off the tab. There is a thin strip of metal up there connecting the two tabs on either side, if you get the tip of the screwdrivee up between that strip and the metal tab stuck to the windscreen and turn it.. It pushes the tiny lock tabs in and releases the mirror easily.

Never having done it before and I did it in seconds so it can't be hard. I read lots of stories on the net about what a b**ch it was so I was pretty surprised at how easy it ended up being. :-). I took my mirror off and put a FG mirror that I had cut up back on there. The FG mirror is basically a holder for a 1080p camera mirror
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:25 am 
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New shiny things!

In my effort to do the 6 speed manual convertion as well as I can... I bought what is supposed to be the best oil you can put in a T56... mainlube.. got a 5litre drum of that and some for the Diff too.

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Got it for $220 on ebay.. so happy enough with that considering it's normal price. I think all I have left to get for the gearbox conversion is a plug and wire for the reverse lockout, and spigot and thrust bearings. Then I've to figure out how to swap my PCM to a manual.

Then I decided to go nuts and match up all my upgraded brakes with matching rotors.... so 400+ dollars later and I had 2 X RDA Territory rear rotors and 2 X BA GT RDA front rotor along with some EBC extreme pads for the front and two rear sets of unknown quality.. (though the reviews on one brand seemed pretty good)
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I've also bought a superpro 27mm front swaybar for the beast.. that should stop the body roll somewhat. that has not arrived yet though. The sway bar was on special for $195.

Lastly and unrelated to the handling or brakes, I ordered and received some new hump stickers for the bonnet.. These ones say Xr6 Turbo too, but instead of chrome, these ones are the exact same color (metalic charchol grey) as the BF2 sideskirt inserts.. (and the same color as the bobtail spoiler will be once I get around to hitting it with 2pack. Looks good.. I am getting a colour theme happening slowly.

Spent a ton of money lately.. luckily my hobby of repairing BA & BF (and SX SY Territorys) columns / ignition / key barrels for people is paying some of the bills. Done a heap of them lately.
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:53 pm 
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Yay... arrived this morning... gonna be a busy weekend.

one 27mm Superpro heavy duty swaybar.

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Can't wait to see how this goes improving the handling..

on ford forums one guy said it was crap until he removed his rear swaybar.. then suddenly he had better traction at both ends.. my end has a gas tank so that might effect things somewhat.

time will tell.

This morning when I put gas in the car.. (29 dollars.. god I love my liquid injection system)
I was walking back to the car when the light struck the bonnet just right and I heard the colour-bond sound in my head and had to take a photo.. this was that photo. (and you can see the new metallic charcoal hump stickers.)

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It is both very pretty.. and tough/manly at the same time.. a paradox!
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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:16 pm 
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Don't go much on your wheels... But that is a sexy car... Looks tops in that shot with that lighting...

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:39 am 
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TimmyA wrote:
Don't go much on your wheels... But that is a sexy car... Looks tops in that shot with that lighting...

Cheers,
Tim


Its funny you should say that.. I'm going to look at some big FG turbo rims this morning. I don't mind the CSA's on it now, but a set of FG XR6T rims painted dark charcoal would be very nice.
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 Post subject: Re: My BA XR6T build.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:47 am 
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The mags turned out not to be what I wanted sadly.. no matter..

In the meantime. I can now run ICC's out of the car.. I'm setting up a workbench bus so I should then be able to hook up PCM's, ICC's and BEMS/Clusters to test/playwith.

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Also, the new front RDA rotors and EBC pads are in the car (BA GT brakes).. and noticeably better too.
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Still have to put the new Territory rotors and pads on the back end though.

The sway bar is in too... not worth taking a photo of that.. it was a 15 minute Job... but my god does it make a difference to BA's... seems like a smaller nimbler car than before.
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:38 pm 
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Hello Frankie
Hows progress going with your build?

Got the looms to finish off the inside of mine at a good price finally, bloke even left all the sensor and modules on the looms for me, which got me thinking i may try and also upgrade my BA to BF. although that could be a while in the pipeline.

So have been thinking about using the BF dash loom to begin with to save on changing That loom again later on. they are mostly identical BUT there are a few gotcha's in there to. Most obvious gotcha being the SRS module, the others seem to be a Missing wire From the Brake fail circuit To the ABS Module
(the vilot-white one circuit 977C) and also looks to be missing O-B 991 which goes to the cluster terminal B20 the abs warn on the BA's, in its place there is a pink-Green wire destination unknown at this point. i think i can get around these problems by running the required wire to the right pins for the and pinning them in a different blank location or make a adapter loom to do that for me. i also noticed the bf Loom i have is missing the line from the Wash level sensor To the BEM. :roll:

all in all im thinking it will be possible to use it. Any thoughts?

Robert

EDIT the pink green Wire goes to the 12 pin connector. on the ba fairmont loom i have its missing, so in a ba application i guess its not needed, will leave it there and just move the pin it conflicts with maybe

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:40 am 
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Hi Robert,

My build is going slowly.. right now I'm doing engine stuff.. I just picked up a nice water to air inter-cooler and I'm moving the battery to the boot, putting the airbox where the battery was and I'm going to try to turn the turbo output housing upside down so it points directly up and then pipe it straight though the W2A inter-cooler and into the throttle body with some lovely 3 inch piping. It should massively lesson the amount time needed to fill the front intercooler with air under boost thereby reducing spool times.

The BF's had a different ABS module too... The wring plug seems to be the same on the one I have here so you might be ok. The BF's also had dynamic Stability control (optional I think), which is one reason I wanted to upgrade in the first place. The DSP is handled by the BF ABS module, but there is a steering column angle sensor and a couple of other bits that go with it.. if your BF loom doesn't have those then I guess you don't need to worry about it.

Everything I've discovered so far shows there is actually less difference between the BA and BF looms than most people think and your info seems to bear that out.

You should be able to test the theory easily enough, Plug the full BF dash loom into the relevant places outside of the dash and plug the BEM/Cluster/ICC into the BF loom and see if it all still works.. would be worth seeing if any PID codes show up using android/torque or something too..

All I can add to the collection of knowledge on the wiring right now is that BF fairmont side looms work without modifications in a BA, and that the reverse sensor module from a Territory ghia will not fit in a Falcon loom despite having the same part number. (different but very similiar plug and it doesn't work if you get it to fit anyway) I even tried doing a full PATS reset to see if it might discover the module but no go.)
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:16 pm 
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Motivated to make another update.

About to take all this piping off:
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And install this and some other stuff in there.
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I've also arranged to drop my spare intake manifold off to the engineering folks..and they will take the top half off and bin it except for the bit that has the throttle body in it.. and also open the bottom half up a bit for smoother flow.. that should also reduce spool times together with what I'm doing with the intercooler.

My wife made me promise not to put the T56 in until after our trip to SA for holidays.. so it's still sitting complete on my shed floor waiting to go in.. I even have a drum of that really expensive T56 oil to go in it... can't wait. (you can see the manual pedal box and extreme clutch in the photo too.)

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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:48 pm 
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Sounding good.

The bf loom i got hold of does have the plugs for the YAW and SAS sensors, as a bonus when i received the dash loom the seller had kindly left the YAW one on there (thats what got me thinking about the hole hog of a upgrade and change) only missing the SAS, on the side looms he left the side impact sensors, not that im planning on using them, may fit them so i don't loose them tho. also managed to pick up the park aid module out of the BF too because the seller didnt take it off! i'm not complaining at that. yep knew it had a different ABS module in the bf and have to use the BF PCM because the bosch 8.0 dont work with a BA pcm, and its the DSC which has got my attention and wanting. I think the BF xr's came out std with it.
upgrading to BF opens up so many options trans wise too gives option of 4A 6A with the trans module 5M 6M is far as i know.

been thinking about just trying out the bf loom loose after i have made the adapter looms, need a trip to you pull it or the wrecker with my cutters :lol:


on a note about the looms i got,
LHS main body including Park module and airbag sensor
RhS main body including the airbag sensor
dash loom including the YAW sensor
Roof loom including all the lights
and a power window motor 250 shipped.

What part of S.A ya checking out?

 

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