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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:39 am 
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Yeah macca I knew you were taking the piss...my response would have been rather severe if I thought you were serious :mrgreen:
I'm probably going to use a 4 poster although a 2 does have it's advantages.
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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:01 pm 
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Well I've decided to push my luck again and had a go on the driveway, partly because I was getting impatient and partly because although my mate has a hoist, its a 2 poster so the hump on the floor would've created havoc with the trans jack so here's what I did...

Got it under there yesterday morning by myself and made my sore back and stuffed shoulder even more so.
The F-series mount and piece of crossmember I used as a balanced jack point which worked very well after I welded the rubber mount solid.
I started by just bolting it up in the original position just to see where the bell would end up...

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As you can see it sticks out a bit but, it's not as far forward as i expected.

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Bolted up the engine to check the clearance. Looks like it'll be through the bonnet where the T-body sits but not where the back of the plenum sits near the firewall. I think I'll set the whole lot back about 50-60mm and the HO upper will still clear....the other intakes I don't think so, unless I can find a GT40 upper which I believe is a smidge shorter than the Cobra/Explorer upper.

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:57 pm 
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Cheers macca!

You can have the F-series transfer for $100 if you like? Everyone reckons they're worth at least $500 but no-one has bought mine.
I'm probably going to get a '98-'01 5.0 Explorer 4R70 built by a guy in the U.S. but, as usual they're hard to deal with. He's quoted $1800 for one that's overkill for my rangie.
I asked another joint over there and they came back with, quote; "it will be the proper tranny to fit to the back of the 351w, will just to need to know the year of the motor,,,,"
WTF!? I asked what the year of the ENGINE has got to do with it and have had no response(as usual).


Hey Pete who did you use for the g/box quote as I'm looking at boxes other than t400 for this project we have, must be 4 speed & must handle 1000rwhp & preferably of a Ford & may have to have a chat to Tony as I need to get a bell housing made to bolt up to a 6cylinder.

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:45 pm 
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Hey Joe,

It was Dirty Dog Performance. His name is Alan. Btw it's been well over a month since my last email to him. Apparently my business is not too important to him. I don't know if a 4R70 can be built to handle 1000rw.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:58 pm 
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theres a few guys over there that are claiming 1000 -1500rwhp for a 70 & 75 but as always what they clain to what you get is the risk you take when you buy from o/s ????

is tony now working for himself
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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:21 pm 
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Yep, that guy seems to have a good rep but I might just buy the parts and build it myself now.
There's a guy on modularfords.com selling one that handles 1000hp because he's now got 1400hp so he's getting something else.
Tony works for a mining engineering mob.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:25 pm 
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he will still do stuff at home, wont he ??........ can you send me that link
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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:35 pm 
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:40 pm 
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now I know why you wanted that adaptor plate made in a hurry..

thanks, I check out that thread
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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:03 am 
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Hi everyone. I was the one selling the 1000hp 4r70w. I have since brought it back to my trans builder and hes built me one to handle up to 1500rwhp. so far it is handling up great and shows no signs of struggling to hold up the power.

My 1500hp one :)

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:11 am 
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hey mate saw your add on the modular site how old is the box ?? & who built your new one
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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 am 
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Thanks for that twinturbo4v, maybe you should talk about how it's built and the cost to remain relevent to this thread? Cheers.
Looks like Level10 built it Joe.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:22 pm 
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Thanks for that twinturbo4v, maybe you should talk about how it's built and the cost to remain relevent to this thread? Cheers.
Looks like Level10 built it Joe.


My guess is lots of $$$$$$ but worth it :lol: This thread just gets better and better.

 

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
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Thread contains mech-o-porn. Its a good read so far, even better that you actually see things through to completion. Keep up the good work.

 

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a 351 Ford Rover
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:52 pm 
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Cheers Lads.
Ok some things I found since saturday morning.
The front shaft clears the trans pan rail but, only by about 4-5mm. So I'm going to have make a solid shaft which may help aleviate another possible problem...starter motor clearance.
If this doesn't help the next option is to mod the bell to take a BTR passenger side starter.
Of course I won't do anything until the whole thing is set back about 60mm.
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