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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:19 pm 
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would love one but i have an EF auto so i dont think i wanna spend money on something i can only piggy back. if it is available in auto then let me in on it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:02 am 
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Hi

Piggyback is a option using you factory ECU/PCM to control the transmission and then side by side using the after market programmable ECU to control the engine fuel/ignition and so on.

Guys just hang in there for those that are after a engine management system to control the Engine and Electronic Transmission control.

Wolf would have to be the first and maybe only one aftermarket system that will be doing both. Not even the rolls royce of after market engine management systems has enough drivers to do so.

AS a lot of other companies do not have enough drivers on their circuit boards to do this.

A transmission controller on its own is between $700 to $2000 USD so in actual fact once the wolf can successfully control the BTr4 transmission and engine you are getting a bargain at the group price.

Here are some transmission controllers only and believe me their not cheap.


Transmission Control Unit http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Electronics/

PCS Programmable Electronic Automatic Transmission Controller-Universal http://www.dezod.com/pd_pcs.cfm

COMPUSHIFT is a state of the art transmission control system
http://compushift.com/products/compushift

Applications:
tranmission and hydraulic control applications for off-highway equipment, marine http://www.axiomatic.com/transmission-control.html

Electronic Trans Controllers - Part One Aftermarket auto transmission controllers http://www.autospeed.co.nz/cms/A_2672/article.html


A programmable electronic-transmission controller features 24 I/Os which accept ... to 42-V battery supply, the controller can
http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=e ... controller


Control Electronics designs and manufactures high-performance automotive transmission equipment
http://www.controlelectronics.com.au/


Transmission Controller, and give your electronic transmission a wake up call. ... http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Catal ... /pdf/9.pdf


Electronic Transmission Controllers
http://www.bowlertransmissions.com/catalog.aspx?cid=22

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:31 pm 
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count me in for 1. does it come with the full hardware? like usb cable, program for a laptop, or is it just a matter of saying what you have done to the engine and they set it up for you?

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:33 pm 
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Ill definately be in on this if its available for an EL XR6 Auto within a few weeks from now.
any updates on it.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:04 am 
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I am yet to read the list of features and controls, but does this ecu have the goods to run a dohc ba/bf engine?? At this price it would certainly make the conversion a lot more viable.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:45 pm 
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Hi

Just been on the telephone with wolf engine management systems.

The transmission and engine controlled by a wolf v500 will not be released . It has been postponed due to the large amount of rime consumed in trying to get it to control the BTr4 electronic transmission properly

But the EF and EL Wolf V5 ECU's are up and running just controlling the engine side of things.

The system comes with a full instructions and a base map so plug'n'play is ready for delivery.

The guys that are hoping for transmission control don't hold your breathe it will not happen for a very long time , and this is from the CEO of wolf doesn't matter what others say.



The factory ford ecu has to be retained if the car is automatic , so it is a side by side fit or as know by many piggyback setup where the factory EEC5 controls the transmission and the wolf controls the ignition and fuel side of things.



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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:20 am 
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So just to confirm is it still plug and play or not?

I'm cool with the factory ECU controlling the auto still, but just wanna know if the v500 will be a plug-in or not.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:26 am 
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ab_futura wrote:
I am yet to read the list of features and controls, but does this ecu have the goods to run a dohc ba/bf engine?? At this price it would certainly make the conversion a lot more viable.


The biggest obstacle is the flyby wire throttle body. if your prepared to change it to a cable EF/EL throttle body which should be the same bolt pattern if my memory serves me right

It has enough drivers to control the 6 individual coils and camshaft solenoid

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:53 pm 
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Ok


just would like to get at least (6) people in a one of buy.

Will see what I can do for best possible price.

Since 10 people seems to be out of the question.

So need a show of hands for people ready to buy this week and have their funds ready.

Just list you name down

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:43 pm 
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I know i cant plug and play in my EL auto, say if i was to wire it in, is it hard to do? im very good with electronics and can follow diagrams easily, does it come with a colour coded wiring diagram or would some body be able to tell me where i have to solder wires and cut wires etc.

What will the final price be on this?
Will i need to modify the distributor or anything else?
Do i need to add any sensors?
Do i need to run wiring to the injectors?

Very interested in this, more worried about how hard it is to install as i want to do it myself.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:38 pm 
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hi

One can hard wire the wolf v500 system

here is the manual you can have a look at yourself and a see what you think

this is of their website which one can download

http://www.wolfems.com/downloads/wolfv500/index.html

Wolf V500 Installation Manual and Help Filehot!
This fully searchable Installation Manual and Help File will help you get the most out of your Wolf V500 ECU.

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:34 pm 
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el_xr6_luke wrote:
Will i need to modify the distributor or anything else?


Depends on how you set it up AFAIK...leading edge v trailing edge / reading short tooth of the distributor.

To give you some kind of idea - I'm running mine full sequential with no TFI module (a couple loop backs to keep ECU happy).

el_xr6_luke wrote:
Do i need to run wiring to the injectors?


Should be ok with injectors...V500 can take high and low impedance.

Good luck with it - there are plenty here who have good knowledge of the ignition side of things. Fuel side is pretty straight forward - reg, injectors and pump. Word of advice with fuel pump - ensure you have upgraded wiring to it :)

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:54 pm 
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i might just buy it then save up the little bit more and get it wired up by someone else. atleast if they f**k something up its there problem then

i havent upgraded the wiring to the fuel pump just the fuel pump itself to a walbro 255
why do i need to upgrade the wiring??


whats the final price on this???

 

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el_xr6_luke wrote:
why do i need to upgrade the wiring??


Under load, a larger fuel pump draws a s**t more current than a standard one.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:21 am 
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el_xr6_luke wrote:
why do i need to upgrade the wiring??


Under load, a larger fuel pump draws a s**t more current than a standard one.


even though the walbro fuel pump is smaller than the stock one??
does everyone else upgrade there wiring, never heard of it been done.

 

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