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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:18 pm 
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Ahah, lol. So multiple d**k/vaginas hey. Well that convention is just stupid - but I'll take note of it. Thanks.


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 Post subject: vt radio plug DON'T FIT
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:34 pm 
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just brought an (aerpro 711784H )for vt comadores which looked very similar to the ford self test plug.

IT DON'T FIT :cry:

Ford plug has more pins and the guide lugs are offset.
looks like wredking yard and wire cutters for me.

very interested in progress of home built code reader any info would be great

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:26 am 
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lol, if you're referring to me, progress = no time. it's just a thought thats been lindering for a while now. If you want any information, just ask.

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:55 pm 
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The EF Low and Mid Series BEM (Lower Connector) Fits the diagnostic connector like a charm.

I have a simple breakout box that I made for work, that has a couple of switches and LEDs to display error codes for the EEC, Trans computer (V8) Airbag, ABS, and one for the fuel pump.

Ive always been thinking of connecting the pins up to a PC parallel port, and using some software to count the pulses, then display a walkthrough on how to fix the displayed problem.

The coding is easy enough. I could write something up very quickly in .net.
The parallel port interface may be a bit iffy, might need to isolate voltages with Transistors or something.....

Anyone want to have a go helping me out with some ideas ?

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:46 pm 
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If you want to isolate the voltages, a transistor probably would be the best bet. But I don't see why you'd need to. Also a transistor then would require a power supply, possibly from the parralel port which is 5V?

Wouldn't it be much easier to just have a direct connection, and count the pulses that way? The voltage or amperage is not big enough to damage anything.


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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:38 pm 
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I'd put in protection anyway. The car electrics could put up to 15V into your computer - not nice. some transistors would do the job nicely, or if you were real paranoid: optoisolators.

 

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 Post subject: pin outs
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:32 pm 
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The EF Low and Mid Series BEM (Lower Connector) Fits the diagnostic connector like a charm.

I have a simple breakout box that I made for work, that has a couple of switches and LEDs to display error codes for the EEC, Trans computer (V8) Airbag, ABS, and one for the fuel pump.

Ive always been thinking of connecting the pins up to a PC parallel port, and using some software to count the pulses, then display a walkthrough on how to fix the displayed problem.

The coding is easy enough. I could write something up very quickly in .net.
The parallel port interface may be a bit iffy, might need to isolate voltages with Transistors or something.....

Anyone want to have a go helping me out with some ideas ?


Hey dude just wondering if you could share the pin out's for the self test connector and where you short to activate the self tests I have got the ecu test working but the wire location for the abs wiring is different in the plug from whrere the workshop manual list's them and manual is usless for doing the test without the ford code readers.

Also just wondering if the conection for the eec IV is the same as the eecV I'm never ditching the NC but someone else might want to use it once i've got it sussed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: pin outs
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:01 pm 
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Hey dude just wondering if you could share the pin out's for the self test connector and where you short to activate the self tests I have got the ecu test working but the wire location for the abs wiring is different in the plug from whrere the workshop manual list's them and manual is usless for doing the test without the ford code readers.

Also just wondering if the conection for the eec IV is the same as the eecV I'm never ditching the NC but someone else might want to use it once i've got it sussed.


No problems
I have uploaded an image to my gallery.
{DESCRIPTION}

Note this is for EF and EL....
Also Note EL models from 97 onwards had the ABS and Airbag diagnostic connectors REMOVED !?!?!?!?! Dunno why....

FINALL NOTE : For EBII-ED Models (POssibly all) the ABS Diagnostic pin (STO) is located where this picture says AES....

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:06 pm 
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Also, I think the Airbag thing changed from this picture....
I know early EFIs displayed the Airbag diagnostics using the Air Bag warning light.
I cant remember for the life of me if this is the same for Series II onwards.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:07 pm 
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Hey dude just wondering if you could share the pin out's for the self test connector and where you short to activate the self tests I have got the ecu test working but the wire location for the abs wiring is different in the plug from whrere the workshop manual list's them and manual is usless for doing the test without the ford code readers.

Also just wondering if the conection for the eec IV is the same as the eecV I'm never ditching the NC but someone else might want to use it once i've got it sussed.


No problems
I have uploaded an image to my gallery.
{DESCRIPTION}

Note this is for EF and EL....
Also Note EL models from 97 onwards had the ABS and Airbag diagnostic connectors REMOVED !?!?!?!?! Dunno why....

FINALL NOTE : For EBII-ED Models (POssibly all) the ABS Diagnostic pin (STO) is located where this picture says AES....


I've got a 98 EL, and the air bag one definately works. Haven't had a problem with ABS, so haven't checked that one.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:12 pm 
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Lol !
Ahhhh another change I need to make to my workshop manual....

Geez, after spending a damm fortune on these books, you would think that ford actually knew what they were doing to their own cars on the production line !

The BEM wiring I have for EFIIs are completely incorrect.
Theres no information about the "FAKE" passenger airbag Resistor for EFI's, even though the Airbag system supports 2 airbags....
Plus many other hair wrenching ommisions...
And now we find another one :roll:

 

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 Post subject: thanks Xyphoid
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:19 pm 
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Thanks dude tis better to double check than have faith in a book and fry an ecu.

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:34 am 
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Jaycar also have a female connector, hav a look here

http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productResult ... RM=KEYWORD

if a group buy is done i may be able to get them for around $23 for 5+ or around $21.50 for 10+ , not a lot but a small difference that could be better spent on fuel....
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Link don't work I'm afraid dude :(

 

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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:41 am 
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Jaycar is very hard to link to, got a product code?

 

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