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{USERNAME} wrote: a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.
you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in! least it might actually go somewhere now 
TORANA = Ton Of Rust And No Acceleration (until powered by a Ford 4L!!)
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{USERNAME} wrote: a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.
you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in! We have actually been considering the webber setup, we have 3 45's from the old torana engine laying around. would a manifold be hard to create for the 4.0lt? |
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eed-250 - the good old falcon six will eat the SR20 on average torque. SR20's peak will be higher (say hello turbocharger) but in a super sedan a fat torque curve across the whole rev range will really make it a weapon.
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^^ for the same amount of cash,
ill build the sr20 and he can build the ford motor. i garuntee mine would be more realiable and much quicker around the track 
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hahaha, i was kinda joking but... if you can fit a 4.0 into the engine bay, there should be enough room for a webber manifold, even if you have to cut away abit of the shock towers. As for making it, copy the flange design from your current manifold and adapt some runners to meet the webbers. the hardest part i think will be making the beast run
ie (fuel injection -> carby) the 4.0l packed full of sensors and s**t, which oviously requires a computer to measure imputs and adjust A/F ratios ECT maybe if somhow you could retain the webbers to use soley as throttle boddies with maybe a hidden injection system underneath the runners??? either way, good luck mate[/quote]
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{USERNAME} wrote: ^^ for the same amount of cash,
ill build the sr20 and he can build the ford motor. i garuntee mine would be more realiable and much quicker around the track get over the SR20 already. they are not the be all and end all of engines. hell i work on and modify the things every day. i'm in the middle of putting together my bosses SR20 right now. it should end up with about 500 to 550hp using 8500rpm and around 28psi of boost from a 620hp turbonetics turbo. and i still think the 4L would be a better choice of engine for this aplication. for a few simple reasons at that power level the SR20 is realying to much on revs. turbo is usless below 4500rpm. the SR20 will have less torque and would be a b**ch to keep on boost. the 4L would use less revs, have more torque and because of the long stroke they spool turbos lower in the revs making it easy to keep on boost. or you could keep it N/A and use crows big cam. (up to 6000rpm) and have a nice wide power band. so you are not constantly searching for the right gear. Last edited by tickford_6 on Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:03 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
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{USERNAME} wrote: or you could keep it N/A and use crows big cam. (up to 6000rpm) and have a nice wide power band. so you are not constantly searching for the right gear.
thats the plan for now and late on turbo will be the go!
p.s sorry about the delay of pics hopefully tomorrow i can "borrow" my mates camera for the day and get some pics up. 
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another big snag hit! oil pump fowls on the crossmember, does anyone know of a shorter oil pump which would match up to the falcon block? either that or one that faces another way? creating the pick up wont be a problem but the oil pump is a head scratcher.
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this. you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in! least it might actually go somewhere now TORANA = Ton Of Rust And No Acceleration (until powered by a Ford 4L!!) I don't know about that man, i know of more than a few wickedly fast torry's, and when i get my turbo motor built for it, and the right clutch setup, it should be pretty fast as well.
Ton of Rust, well mine has a bit, but what can you expect from 31yrs in the weather & 250k or so kms.... A ton of it, no. Small amount in lower rear quarters and a bit under the dash in the air vent area. Elsewise the car is pretty straight and rust free.... I would like to see my EB take the punishment that my torry has taken and be running still! I've even been hit in the a*** @ 60kph and it's repairable, going into the panel shop for that and rust repair soon, in next few mths. Then i can start to build the turbo motor for it..... A guy in perth has a 202 with a T04 @ 481 RWHP. In a 1200ish kg torry, if that ain't tough and fast, i dunno what is!
Don't get my wrong tho, i love my EB as well, but i miss driving my torry. Can't wait to get it all finished and drivable again. Cheers ToranaGuy
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{USERNAME} wrote: another big snag hit! oil pump fowls on the crossmember, does anyone know of a shorter oil pump which would match up to the falcon block? either that or one that faces another way? creating the pick up wont be a problem but the oil pump is a head scratcher.
i know this is not a cheap way out but you could run a drysump system. moroso make a few different ones worth looking at |
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WooHoo! problem fixed im using a cut sump from a te cortina with modified pick up, very custom but puts the pan of the sump at the rear of the crossmember similar to the old torana engine that was in there. sorry no pics but have had the engine out while working on the oil pump/sump problem.
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Well better give an update its been ages, and in that time i had my digital camera stolen with all my working shots of the torana so im plenty annoyed coz i really wanted to show everyone.
this is what has been done so far, - firewall and gearbox tunnel removed - T5 installed using standard torana mount and crossmember - EB motor rebuilt 20 thou oversize with heavy duty lifters race cam, and very high compression for....... tripple 45 webbers i have mounted onto the motor on a manifold designed and built by dad! - race clutch adapted to torana clutch pedal (completely different setup!) - steering column altered to use laser uni joints to allow column to clear side of bellhousing - sump on the motor created using 5 different sumps (EA,TE cortina, LJ torana, EH, and escort), now reversed so pan at rear of motor with custom pick up and dip stick mount. thats it so far been way to busy with that and the gearbox blowing up in my mk2 esky rally car havent really been using a computer for ages, hopefully ill be buying a camera soon so i can show all my creation! cheers matt
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Here she is finally finished i love it!! so much torque!! there not the best pics but ill get more up soon!!
EDIT: pics didnt work im posting them again below, hope they work this time! Last edited by MATT J on Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total. |
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{USERNAME} wrote: Here she is finally finished i love it!! so much torque!! there not the best pics but ill get more up soon!!
    F**k YES!!!!!! That is one awesome Torry 
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damn the pics aren't loading!! this thing sounds cool!
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