there's no way a au3 xr6 will outbrake a ba! handling maybe, but not the brakes. and yes i've driven both. for the price of an au3 xr6 you could do a bit better than a xt. 03/4 futura or 02 fairmont.

as was mentioned earlier. no competition. upgrade the suspension on the ba and get an edit and goodbye au.

man get a clue, ive dragged so many BA XT's at the lights when my AUI was STOCK, and they only beat me by a car length (approx 400m)

BA couldnt stand against an AUIII XR6, its just plain logic, the BA is heavier and only slightly more powerfull then a stock non-XR AU

Cameroncoulston you have no idea what you are talking about.
My ELXR could beat a BAXt/XR in stock form manual vs manual, and i've been whipped by au's before. The AU is quicker out of the box, it's that simple, and the base range BAs look woeful, one of the most boring cars on the road.

BA XT 0.111794 kw/kg
AUIII XR6 VCT 0.116216 kw/kg
AUIII XR6 HP 0.110811 kw/kg

this is a fair idea of power the vct model should out perfrom the BA the HP model will prob get beaten mind you the figures are very close.

i would imagin in a standing drag the au would win only because of the final drive, but be close.

fuel economy is similar, id lean at the AU just becaus its a tickford enhanced mode even the BA XR6 is a XT with a body kit.

Performance:
(Falcon XR6 VCT, 4 speed auto):

0-100km/h: 8.5 seconds
Standing 400m: 16.2 seconds

BA Specs:
- 182kw
- 380Nm
- 0-100 / 7.8 sec
- 400m / 15.9 sec
- 1700kg

100 metres behind, I thought the car ahead was a commowhore. when I got closer, I realize it was a Freaken BA. he notice me so he tried to out run me up the hills. no chance, I'm right up his six.

got to the top of the hill. goodie, heaps of S bends, right & left sweeps down hill. Halfway down I check my rear, the BA was no where to being seen.

I slowed down, just to be sure. that the bastard in the BA did not roll over the side of the hill.

yeah but that ain't manual, which is what i'm talking about lol.

auto vs auto my ba embareses my old mans au and outruns my brothers au2 xls 5 speed and mine is an auto.

more so since its been tickled by jays rpd

edit: 2003 motor mag says
manual XT 1673kg and 7.23 sprint to 100k's
auto xr6na 1685kg and 8.11 0-100
15.2 for the xt manual and 15.8 for the xr6 auto
al you need is an edit to get rid of the torque tags and youll have crazy low down power that will embaress most cars.

The BA is just all over a better car.

Independent rear suspension is something most of you have failed to mention and to my mind it is THE biggest difference between them. The IRS makes better handling in corners, better stopping and gets power to the ground better. The BA is just a high quality car through and through. And you can drive the auto like a manual anyway.

Go the BA, there is no comparison for quality.

The only advantage an XR6 has is resale value.

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get a clue, and i have no idea??? comming from 1 whos an 18 year old and has about 1 year of driving experience up your belt.thats a dumb thing to say to me when i have owned both these model cars, im pretty damn sure i have a clue.

however, i may mention that both have been auto.

You are the same age as me you fool .

Whoever said it, the AU3 VCT XR6 _has_ IRS, it's the HP that doesn't.
And, Cameron, if you read what i said in the first place, manual go for au, auto go for BA.

yer i knwo that, i was talkin about the other lad who wanted to be a hero, cant say ive driven a manual au all that much, but i know the auto ones take it up the.... i think when buying any 2nd hand car u know that a manual is rare and they will hold their value and when they do get age they are cheaper to replace parts in the gearbox rather than the auto.

Most people haven't mentioned IRS because in VCT XR6's (which most have assumed it is) IRS is standard. It is an option on the HP XR6, but again if you're looking at an HP XR6 vs a BA its apples and oranges...


What are you basing your "the BA is better quality car through and through" comment on mate? A BA XT's seats alone are horrible compared to an AU XR6, and if your lucky, you may even be able to find one with leather in your price range. Add to that the fact you can actually remove the s**t stock stereo and replace it with a decent one in the AU, the AU will have more options in it than a stock XT, and the figures most people are quoting for 1/4 mile times are most likely auto v auto, which of course the semi-auto BA box making the better time. My uncle has a manual AU XR6 VCT ute, my cousin has a manual VT SS ute, and the AU keeps up quite easily until they hit about 100 km/h...


Go the AU mate, people dont the AU's cos they are different, the BA's look boring as s**t in their stock form, its only when they get a kit on it that they start looking good...


Don't forget too mate, that a lot of the BA's floating around are ex-company cars, and after looking after a car-fleet for a NSW govt dept for 12 months, they get the absolute guts flogged out of them, gotta wonder how long they will last before you start having to worry about them...

obviously the vtss ute is a 5.0 not a 5.7. keeping up with a 5.0 is no big deal as they are only about 7kw more than a vct. my man ef xr6 could drill a holden 5.0.

you don't have to replace the sound system in ba's as they are already above average. then again people that drive around so that everyone else can hear their music really annoy me anyway.

performance is not going to be one way or the other to any great degree. not all cars are created equal so some ba's will do an au xr and vice versa. vct's were not that quick. once again i could account for them in my ef xr6 (minor mods 130rwkw).

i think the layout and looks of the ba interior are a cut above. too much taurus about the au.

ba's are also a lot easier to extract extra power from. stock for stock there's not much in it but ba's will respond a hell of a lot better. exhaust and edit and it's mid to high 14's.

just hunt around and get a ba xt 5.4.