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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:54 pm 
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will an ef oil pump fit an au engine?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:34 pm 
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Well with the rocker gear and plugs out crank it and see if u have oil. Ive just solved the same issue but there was no 1 fix.

But just see if you get oil to the top of the motor. If u are it aint the pump

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:09 pm 
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The repair manual says to check the oil filter, oil viscosity, suction pipe screen, oil pump suction screen, and oil pressure sender.

Before you resort to pulling the engine out to replace the oil pump, you could try removing the synchonizer. Using a cordless drill with a socket and extension, you can spin the oil pump and check if the oil is coming out of the feed hole in the head. I'd do it with the rocker gear off.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:17 am 
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The repair manual says to check the oil filter, oil viscosity, suction pipe screen, oil pump suction screen, and oil pressure sender.

Before you resort to pulling the engine out to replace the oil pump, you could try removing the synchonizer. Using a cordless drill with a socket and extension, you can spin the oil pump and check if the oil is coming out of the feed hole in the head. I'd do it with the rocker gear off.



so maybe a blocked filter, when i remove it what am i looking for on the filter?

to get to the suction pipe screen and the oil pump suction screen i need to remove the sump dont i?

and oil pressure sender? - do you mean the pressure sensor on the side of the block ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:32 am 
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if there is oil pressure at the pressure switch the oil pump is fine..
check the pressure with a mechanical external pressure gauge and see what psi it actually is at.. from memory it should be minimum 40psi at 2000rpm....
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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:55 pm 
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these engines have an oil filter bypass valve incase of filter blockage dont they.
or am i mistaken?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:17 pm 
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i pulled off the oil filter out and the middle hold appears un obstructed but the smaller holes that form a ring around it are blocked from the inside by an orange bladder?

is this normal??

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:36 pm 
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The orange 'bladder' is part of the anti-syphon valve.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:47 pm 
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The orange 'bladder' is part of the anti-syphon valve.


oh ok, well i put a new filter in and also new oil and it still no differance, so im going to buy an oil pump,

everyone agree?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:04 pm 
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did you do a mechanical oil pressure test???
if not your just wasting your time playing guessing games..
you should know the procedure on fault finding bradley... or dont they teach the basics at tafe anymore??
otherwise just buy another engine... it will be cheaper...then you can fix the damage to your firewall at the same time. :wink: ..
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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:09 pm 
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did you do a mechanical oil pressure test???
if not your just wasting your time playing guessing games..
you should know the procedure on fault finding bradley... or dont they teach the basics at tafe anymore??
otherwise just buy another engine... it will be cheaper...then you can fix the damage to your firewall at the same time. :wink: ..


i dont have a pressure tester at home.

and fixing that damage was on the list of things to do lols

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:11 pm 
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when i pulled the oil filter out, i also pulled out the oil pressure sensor gave it a bit of a crank and nothing came out.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:43 pm 
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Buy a $10 mechanical oil pressure gauge form somewhere and use that or go to the wreckers and find one in a car. Doesn't need to be High quality, it will just tell you if you have any pressure. Also did you put a kit through that pump before you refitted it? Leaving them kicking around on a dirty floor is not the best idea.
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 Post subject: Re: oil pump removal
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:12 am 
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end result is 0 oil pressure, so this morning i opened up the ford workshop manual and began to remove the sump, turns out being an au engine the sump wont come out the way the book says,

i undid the engine mounts and lifted up the engine as stated in the manual,
then i undid all the sump bolts and tryed to wriggle it out to no avail,


how do i get the sump out?

i have heard you need to drop the k-frame, how hard is this to do?

thanks for your help brad.

 

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 Post subject: Re: oil pump removal
Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:51 am 
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If you can weld just cut the k frame cross beam and drop the sump. Or pull the engine. Or drop the k frame (PITA).
When you got the sump off clean the oil strainer.
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