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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:15 pm 
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Thats just my opinion man. If you want EF/EL ones go for it haha.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA. Now with FG XR6 interior , which mirrors ?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:33 pm 
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Rooted XG wrote:
Thats just my opinion man. If you want EF/EL ones go for it haha.


As i mentioned in PMs which ever are cheaper :)

but i really do want EF/EL mirrors as i seen a picture of a car in my colour and they look great for the shape of the box car
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Post a pic when finished the mirrors

 

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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA. Now with FG XR6 interior , which mirrors ?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:39 pm 
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123esproc wrote:
Post a pic when finished the mirrors


http://www.boostedfalcon.net/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=21898

that is the "finished look"

with the EF/EL mirrors on a box car in a very similar colour of mine

anyone opinions ?

this is how she sits atm

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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA. Now with FG XR6 interior , which mirrors ?
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:23 pm 
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Just got a roll master cam gear and have installed it piece of piss

Just curious though i have set the gear to 4 degrees advance , timing chain had some stretch in it so technically 2-3 degrees advance

I am running a 1636 wade, will this effect anything with valve kissing piston ?

I don't want to be a mitch and have a motor grenade it self
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA with some FG XR6 , vernier gear help please?
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Get the bastard registered FFS! haha.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA with some FG XR6 , vernier gear help please?
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:00 pm 
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To set the vernier gear to find true TDC rocking no1 (harmonic balancers can slip)...

Once you have the crank set you then loosen the bolts in the vernier gear (may need to do the bottom bolt or two before you set TDC rocking no 1)...

You then set a dial indicator up on the valve or lobe (depends what the spec says, lobe is easier I find) you zero the dial indicator then roll the cam (which will slip in the centre or vernier gear because it's undone) until you have achieved the setting on the spec sheet that came with the cam... Which is 50 thou of an inch at the valve at TDC? I am nearly sure that was what my 1636 was...

Then nip the bolts in the vernier gear (just the accessible ones) and then roll the crank back and then ramp up again and make sure you still get as close to 50thou as you can as you stop the crank on TDC...

This then allows for chain stretch and any head skimming done over it's life... It puts the cam in perfect recommended phase with the crank as indicated by the manufacturer... If you are chasing high or low horsepower then you start retarding or advancing from that setting...

You can't just set the vernier gear to 2 or 3 degrees... Doesn't work like that and as you said chain stretch and head skimming will completely throw that out and it isn't a reliable or accurate method of phasing the cam in...

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 Post subject: Re: Granny spec EA with some FG XR6 , vernier gear help please?
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TimmyA wrote:
To set the vernier gear to find true TDC rocking no1 (harmonic balancers can slip)...

Once you have the crank set you then loosen the bolts in the vernier gear (may need to do the bottom bolt or two before you set TDC rocking no 1)...

You then set a dial indicator up on the valve or lobe (depends what the spec says, lobe is easier I find) you zero the dial indicator then roll the cam (which will slip in the centre or vernier gear because it's undone) until you have achieved the setting on the spec sheet that came with the cam... Which is 50 thou of an inch at the valve at TDC? I am nearly sure that was what my 1636 was...

Then nip the bolts in the vernier gear (just the accessible ones) and then roll the crank back and then ramp up again and make sure you still get as close to 50thou as you can as you stop the crank on TDC...

This then allows for chain stretch and any head skimming done over it's life... It puts the cam in perfect recommended phase with the crank as indicated by the manufacturer... If you are chasing high or low horsepower then you start retarding or advancing from that setting...

You can't just set the vernier gear to 2 or 3 degrees... Doesn't work like that and as you said chain stretch and head skimming will completely throw that out and it isn't a reliable or accurate method of phasing the cam in...

Cheers,
Tim


Awesome reply Tim , i should cheek your thread more often i feel bad your always tinkering with AU onwards parts retro fitting stuff

That explanation should be a sticky in the 6 cylinder section

I still cant believe how stretched the chain is with such "low km" will leave as is for now till i get time in a few weeks i just am scared of valve kissing piston like with twix
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:17 pm 
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Get the bastard registered FFS! haha.


i wish , i wont be having my license for many many years due to medical reasons

I also had an idea imagine running two walbro GSS342 pumps if you have two pumps running it will be harder to be in the middle of no where with dead fuel pump as you got 2 , sure they would wear the same

Currently have a single GSS342

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Too easy...

My 1636 was written wrong... Sure it said 50thou at the lobe... when I rang them they said s**t no it's 50 thou at the valve... I said the paper says this but and they tended to imply I was full of s**t... :/

I dialed it in to 50thou at the valve (25 at the lobe) and it worked and impregnated any valves into the pistons...

The interesting one was the VCT...

Cheers,
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Just carry a spare fuel pump for god sake!
And what gifts! I want gift now! Did you buy me things! Send them to me and you pay postage!

 

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TimmyA wrote:
Too easy...

My 1636 was written wrong... Sure it said 50thou at the lobe... when I rang them they said s**t no it's 50 thou at the valve... I said the paper says this but and they tended to imply I was full of s**t... :/

I dialed it in to 50thou at the valve (25 at the lobe) and it worked and impregnated any valves into the pistons...

The interesting one was the VCT...

Cheers,
Tim



Wait what impregnated does this mean the motor went grenade ? i am now tempted to go to 0 degrees as i have got bad luck and i am afraid it will happen to me also

Ya wade cant even give me a straight answer when i rang them i rang twice and they gave two total different numbers
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:31 pm 
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Thanks Sefton

Also anther mod i guess got this done to the windows notice the difference between :) :)

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