water meth injection or intercooling will help with keeping temps down,
but at the moment being winter i think the issue im having with pinging might be more timing map related as in summer the intake temps will be heaps higher than they are now..
but its still cool watching how temps rise under boost ect..

Troy,
make sure the temp is calibrated. There should be some cal's in the help software, if not i have mine here somewhere, that way you know it is accurate if you are using the factory AIT.
Cheers
Brett

yea i saved the calibration file that was in the ems help files.
it was for eb but the ait sensors are the same from ea to el so i think it should be right..

EMS has output that can be set to trigger off mainfold vacuum or pressure, so no need for hobbs switch. If your inlet temps are accurate, then my intercooler does a bloody good job of lowering IAT's.
Prebly pinging cause the tune is not 100%, having said that elevated inlet temps probably not helping.

Aftermarket ecu FTW!!!

Cheers

Daz

not to take side's in this but i have been to CMS a few time's when your car was there and i has a sticky at just to see how it was going and i do say it was not like that it was neat and tidy....

what do you mean taking sides? why do you say that?
the wires were neat when the car was returned..
i just re done them to make the ecu stand alone..
that was just a pic of when i was pulling it apart..just showing my progress.
that pic has got nothing to do with cms..
i was getting it re tuned at cms soon.

thats how i read the post, dunno where the bite came from

looking at the other thread about drastic's car i think theyre hinting about something... possibly...?

or am i missing something here

umm i dont know??
i just read that thread

Without going too far off topic whats the link to that? Will be interesting to look at.

im not sure wtf is going on in regards to that other thread?
it got nothing to do with me and its none of my buisness..

anyway before i get the car tuned again im thinking now the ecu is stand alone i can go coil pack now and ditch the dizzy set up??

this question is more for terroristghia or dazzle? or anyone who has used the ems..
do i need to run the ems coil igniter to run coil pack or can i just use ef/au coil pack??
ill put this question in a thread in ecu forum aswell..

You need the EMS Ignitor, was 140 odd from memory, as i had one fail, and now you need to get them with a loom, whereas they used to be less than 100 and came with a loom. Will you not also need cam and crank sensors( as your dissy is now supplying those through the PIP signal)
Brett

ok..
the engine still has the au cam and crank angle sensors attached so i just got to work the rest out..?

the other thing is im assuming i will need a 3 coil igniter? as i would be using ef or au coil pack and it looks like 3 coils? one coil for 2 cylinders?
does that make sense?

I was going to do the same, but i would have had to get another 2 MSD boxes.........mmmmm, no thanks, no room...lol
Pretty sure you will need a 3 coil ignitor, and be running wasted spark....

Same yourself the grief, and email Peter @ EMS, he'll help you out. If you want to just upgrade the ignition, then just get an MSD6A/L, and keep the dizzy, so much simpler. They usually go for a decent price on ebay. Shop around and you shouldn't pay the earth.

Cheers

Daz

hmm thanks guys..
sounds like a mission with no real gains??
maybe i should just keep the dizzy!

this post is in regards to the s**t that was said by a few people telling joe at cms that i was the one that put the crap up in the true local thing that green machine posted..
after visiting joe at cms today this was brought to my attention..
now i assume people have said this because i wasnt happy with the perfect power piggyback ecu and the way the ems ecu was installed into my car.
yes i did say to a couple of people on a friday night i wasnt happy with the way it was connected.
honestly if you are paying $2000 for an ecu + installation you would expect to get all the options that were there to be connected.
the things i wasnt happy about were the fact that there was no 02 sensor connected!
ok fair enough as it needed a different 02 to operate closed loop mode..
then after hooking up my laptop to the ems i also found out that there was no air temp sensor connected? this sensor was there, it was just a matter of connecting 1 wire.
not to mention the muliple times i asked to have the bbm trigger conected. i was told if i wanted it connected to undo it all and do it myself,which i did!
so this would annoy most people as you would expect it to be connected the way its meant to..
i had spoken to joe after i found that there was no air temp connected and that i had connected the air temp sensor up myself which joe said has now thrown my tune out..
and as for eb fairmont commenting about the progress pics,saying that it wasnt like that at joes.
of course it wasnt! i untaped the wires to make the ems a standalone set up rather than a semi piggyback. these were just my progress pics and had nothing to do with cms, so you jumped to conclusions blowing this whole thing out of proportion!!!!!!!!!!!!

so to those who jumped to conclusions and told joe it was me that put that crap on true local,
get your facts straight before blaming me.. as was posted in the green machine thread someone used a pic of his car?
well i have no issues with green machine so why would i do that???
apparently joe was told that my car was also booked into rigoli to get a re tune?
well if that person read this thread properly you will know that i only got a quote (whats wrong with getting other prices)and i had previously arranged to get cms to re tune it.

so just to clarify that it wasnt me that posted that feedback on true local, and yes initally i wasnt happy with what was done but not enough to leave negative feedback

end rant!!!!

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