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 Post subject: how to check isc
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:22 pm 
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hi just wondering how to check an ef isc and how to change the idle if at all?

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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:32 am 
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Idle speed on ef is controlled by the ecu.You can adjust the base idle speed,but only when motor is running in diagnostic mode.To check isc,remove 2 mounting bolts and electrical connector,and remove Isc from vehicle.Problems with isc will usually cause idle problems and will give the diagnostic error codes 411/412. Check that the 2 holes/passages on throttle body(where isc mounts on) are clear/unbstructed.Next look insde isc,if it is full of carbon or dirt,spray carby cleaner in it and allow to dry.Remove the round black plastic cap from the side of ISC(do this by grasping black plastic cap and pulling it sideways away from the ISc unit).Inside this black plastic cap is small round felt filter,if this is dirty clean by using compressed air,or wash and allow to dry if really dirty.Replace filter and cap.(i have seen qualified mechanics replace perfectly good isc units because the were not aware that this filter exists).
Grab a multi meter and check that the resistance between the 2 terminals on the isc is 9.6 kilo ohms,plus or minus 10 %.Replace isc if out of spec.Also check that you have battery voltage at ISC connector with ignition on(all warning lights on with engine off).If there is no voltage at connector,idle speed control circuit in ecu may be rooted(usually blown capacitors or dry solder joints).Sorry for writing a book, but hope this helps.
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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:44 am 
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nice, i didn't know about the 9.6KOhm's thing.

Will have to check out the ISC's next time i give them a clean.

Also i didn't know about the little filter in the black round thing.

Silly question does this also apply for AU's?

Also how do you adjust the idle speed/rev?

I thought that i should remove the connector to the ISC, which will almost stall the car, then adjust the screw thingy on the throttle body. Then once i get a good idle speed/rev, plug back in the ISC connector.

When i done this the car was revving its titty's off.

So i had to undo what i done to the throttle body screw adjuster.
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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:24 am 
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does the filter thing apply to EB?

 

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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:27 am 
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interesting i think this should be turned into a sticky or added to the tech doc's
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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:29 pm 
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As stated above,idle speed on ef 6 cylinder falcons is controlled by the ecu and is non adjustable,just turning the throttle stop screw with connector off will not work.Base idle speed however,is adjustable,but must be adjusted with engine running and ecu in diagnostic mode.For ecu to maintain correct idle speed,the base idle speed must be set to between 680-720rpm in diagnostic mode only.I will post the procedure for how to adjust base idle speed on ef 6 cylinder later on when I dig out my factory ef workshop manual..Im a bit busy at the moment..i would assume that any vehicle fitted with an isc would have to have a small filter at the bypass air entry point..so the same should apply to eb ,el au falcons fitted with an isc...but I have only owned an ef(and still own an ef xr6) so I cannot confirm this for sure....anyway..gotta go now..girlfriend is starting to whinge..will post more later.
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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:06 am 
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so thats why my idle is always off. forget to set it in diagnostic mode

 

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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:46 pm 
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How do you put it in diagnostic mode and set the base idle speed? This is some noice info you got there mate.

 

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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:10 pm 
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no, the idle speed is set by the ecu..its programmed in...

u do have to set the tps closed point tho..

from my experience set your idle with the isc disconnected to around 500-600 ...check tps voltage is still in the idle range (if not adjust)...reconnect isc...if idle is still playing up and everything else is good (such as vac leaks, timing and ecu->isc wiring) then clean isc...if still plays up replace isc...

 

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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:50 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: how to check isc
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:19 pm 
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I know this is old and I'm digging a little but I wanted to correct some information.

The resistance you should be getting when measuring across the pins should be 9.6 (+/-10%) OHMS not KILOHMS.

I was using my multimetre on 20kohm setting (from the info I read above) and was getting readings of .01 & .02 but a quick read of the workshop manual confirmed it was only ohms, so on the 20ohm setting I got a reading of 11.6. Made much more sense.

So (as you can guess) mine is out of spec and needs replacement, but wanted to add that info here so no one else got caught up with the wrong settings.

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