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 Post subject: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:52 am 
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Thought I'd start a thread to keep it out of the build . Anyway the tuner says my 42lb injectors are nearly maxing out and I need a rising rate fuel reg ?

Now to my understanding after market ecu , bigger injectors and fuel pump is all that's needed , and those adjustable regs were the dodgy way to go with stock tune .
It seems that most cars he tunes are using a rising rate reg with a microtech ecu . Not sure about bigger injectors .

I'm going to get one of those regs but I do have a 400 kpa xr6 turbo reg I will use .
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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:55 am 
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This is it

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 0753199191

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:12 am 
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193rwkw is no where near maxxing 42's. You'll get closer to 300rwkw with them.

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:19 am 
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i thought so 42lb can support more than what im making. maybe he means there working harder than they need to ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:38 am 
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what fuel reg are you using now??

i would fit an au fuel rail with the xr6t reg, the xr6t reg is 400kpa and is a 1:1 rising rate..

i was running the au 350kpa reg with 65lb injectors and they were only running at 30% on 12psi+ with heaps of room for improvement..

if a ba xr6t with 29lb injectors can make 200+rwkw you shouldnt have any issues with 42lb injectors..

if your ecu can run low imedance injectors i have a set of 65lb delphi injectors for sale if your interested...
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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:01 am 
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I'll find out if it can run low impedance . I'm using standard el xr reg

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:35 pm 
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i only use standard reg on my car . and have 42lbs injectors .no need for it

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:37 am 
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Who's tuning your car (I suspect its Motortech)? I think you should find another tuner before you buy a rising rate fuel regulator.
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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:46 am 
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Not them , kev at south coast rotary . I already have a 400kpa xr6 turbo reg . Just need a au fuel rail .
Can the billet fuel rails for ba -Bf fit ? There only $160 on eBay , would look better than the standard rail .

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:05 am 
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is your car running really rich. I'm making the same power with standard BA injectors. Something doesn't sound right at all.

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:47 am 
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When I put my foot down a big puff of black smoke comes out but goes away once boost comes on .
I think the low power has to do with how my boost controller is set up . I have it starting to open at 4 psi . It's set at 10 psi but max boost its making is 8.5 psi .
I'm thinking the engine is having to work harder to make max boost as it starts dumping it at 4 psi .

so I'm going to fit a 10 psi spring , run 10 and set to open at 10.

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:01 pm 
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ahk is that to save your T5?, Your power seems pretty low for 8.5psi boost. My brothers dead stock AU XR6 VTC with a pretty small turbo at 8psi is making 230rwkw. Has the mob that is tuning your car tuned falcon turbos like yours before?

I wondering if its actually making 4psi max boost. You have a good setup and cam, It should be making more.

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:11 pm 
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Nah not worried about the t5, my tuner only tunes rotarys,so mostly mazdas. I think I'm the first with a turbo falcon .
I'll see how it feels after I change the spring and make the gate open later, he says he can't get anymore power out of it as injectors are maxing out, which is impossible.

I was disappointed when it didn't even make 200rwkw . I've done everything the right way and have potential to make alot more than that on 8 psi . Who knows what's going on , I don't think the dyno reads low as the car doesn't feel much more powerful than when it was n/a with 977b and 157 rwkw .

 

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:16 pm 
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The reason I had the gate to open at 4 psi is because I was going to run 6 psi but decided to set the controller to 10 psi , but forgot to change when the gate starts to open. I think the gate opening this early is causing the low power .

 

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Dark Agents,Sunroof, bilstein shocks, 6000k HIDS, 329 mm slotted rotors, twin pot calipers , Climate Control, GarrettT04 turbo,log manifold, crow turbo cam, microtech lt10c, 42lb injectors , 044, surge tank , T56 , rebuilt bottom end , alloy plenum .

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 Post subject: Re: rising rate reg / adjustable fuel reg with 42lb injectors?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:24 pm 
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I would be taking it somewhere else with what you have done to your car at that boost you should be more like ~240rwkw

 

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