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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:32 am 
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fkn no one answered me! if METAL absorbs heat more than plastic, thus increasing the temperature of the material where the air passes by, this would therefore INCREASE the temperature of the oxygen which DECREASES performance (hot air intake)

the question is, how can there be a power gain? ARHIDIA!



the temp at the throttle body was only about 3degree hotter when i checked it. 34degree day in full sunlight with the engine at operating temp and reving at 3000rpm for a 5min test. there is not much air flow at the outer of the pipe. and infact the air touching the pipe it self although a very very thin layer is not even moving.

power gain comes from the smoother less restricted air path


if anyone is overly worried about it i can do them mild steel and have them ceremic coated by jethot or hpc

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:41 am 
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Are you able to get prices on both please but only if its not to much hassle

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:59 am 
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yeah i can. but not sure when right now.

at present i'm sitting here waiting for a catagory 5 cyclone to make up its mind if it's going to hit townsville or not. if it does i wont be able help for at least week maybe more


http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65002.shtml
check that out.

to give you an idea what we are looking Imgham is 120km away from townsville and the most destructive part of the cyclone is that big.

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:07 am 
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yeah i can. but not sure when right now.

at present i'm sitting here waiting for a catagory 5 cyclone to make up its mind if it's going to hit townsville or not. if it does i wont be able help for at least week maybe more


http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65002.shtml
check that out.

to give you an idea what we are looking Imgham is 120km away from townsville and the most destructive part of the cyclone is that big.


Crap man thats close
Man I am in no rush for it just whenever you have time
good luck with the cyclone

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:13 am 
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Yeah I would be interested as well... I will be checking in everynow and then to see what progress has been made and what prices I am looking at.. But overall it sounds great.!
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:18 am 
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tickford_6, i would be interested too especially if u can get them hpc coated. I will keep an eye out when you get some definates in prices etc. Cheers :D p.s. good luck with the cyclone!

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:34 pm 
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I was thinking more along the lines of about $100. Does anyone have the exact specs for it, cause i can get a boiler maker at work to make one up.



the stainless bends and straight pipe costs me more then that to buy.


Yea true..... :wink: well when some one finds out some prices of what they can get them for (not including JMM and Co.) It would be good to know. And even if the stainless pipe does get hot, the speed of the air going through it, the air wouldnt be in the pipe long enough to heat up would it?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:33 pm 
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We got them made here in SA a few years back for $110. This wasnt bends + welding, but mandrel bent 3" stainless pipe. We had 15people iirc, most exhaust shops would do a similar deal if they could gaurentee 10-20purchaces.

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:54 pm 
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ok guys have to some prices.


ok guys the stainless ones will be $190

no price on the mild ones yet as the suplier was closed today due to the cyclone.


on side note. if any one here is god with CAD programs like auto cad or turbo cad
and comes up with a logo to be added on a small badge that can be aranged at extra cost
the badge should be no bigger then then 4cm x 8cm. The logo would be laser cut and the badge welded to the pipe just befor the tb

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:06 pm 
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tickford_6 wrote:
ok guys have to some prices.


ok guys the stainless ones will be $190

no price on the mild ones yet as the suplier was closed today due to the cyclone.


on side note. if any one here is god with CAD programs like auto cad or turbo cad
and comes up with a logo to be added on a small badge that can be aranged at extra cost
the badge should be no bigger then then 4cm x 8cm. The logo would be laser cut and the badge welded to the pipe just befor the tb


Cool man, are you going to organise an official group buy of them or is your mate willing to make any amount for $190 a shot?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:10 pm 
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ok guys have to some prices.


ok guys the stainless ones will be $190

no price on the mild ones yet as the suplier was closed today due to the cyclone.


on side note. if any one here is god with CAD programs like auto cad or turbo cad
and comes up with a logo to be added on a small badge that can be aranged at extra cost
the badge should be no bigger then then 4cm x 8cm. The logo would be laser cut and the badge welded to the pipe just befor the tb


Cool man, are you going to organise an official group buy of them or is your mate willing to make any amount for $190 a shot?


yeah think it's fair to say there will be a group buy this time.

how about we start it at 10 for the $190 if we get more people then that i'll adjust price

i'll order what i need to make the first one and post up some pickswith in the next 10 working days (i hope it depends when my welder is back in town

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:18 pm 
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So before this goes ahead..... is this 1 piece mandrel bent 3" stainless? Or is it mandrell bends tig wielded together?

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:34 pm 
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it's bends and straight TIG welded to gether.

i'll have one made with a few different looking welds ie: large bead dont with filler rod a medium bead and a flat weld (fuised together with no filler rod)

also open to sugestions on design, as it's for your car so you need to be happy with it.

the basic shape must stay. but i have seen a few different one about.

One peice from air box to TB
Some use a 2 piece design with the stock EL flex pipe used.
Some kink slightly just out of the air and go straight back to a 90 bend over to the engine.
Others use a straigh pipe out of the air box that runs at a slight angle back

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:37 pm 
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Some kink slightly just out of the air and go straight back to a 90 bend over to the engine.

I think this one would look the best. Are you going to make one of each and then post the pics of them to let us choose.

Also how do we pay for these???

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:54 pm 
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i'll make the one with the kink out of the box to get a pic of it.
and i'll post up pics of the others as well, there are a few on here already.

payment i'll orginise with the buyers. but most likely direct deposit into my account

after the the different style has been posted we'll put it vote on wich one is made

 

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