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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:59 pm 
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also an added bonus with cutting the k frame is you can also fit a ba engine without anymore modifications..

Yeah but try and get your head around the electrics

I would of had one of these in my car last week if it was an easy electrical job as i was offered BA motor and box from mate for nothin 8-)

 

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:08 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
also an added bonus with cutting the k frame is you can also fit a ba engine without anymore modifications..

Yeah but try and get your head around the electrics

I would of had one of these in my car last week if it was an easy electrical job as i was offered BA motor and box from mate for nothin 8-)


true but in time it will be easier...
more and more people are learning ways around the electrical side of things..
at the moment the costs outway the results..
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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:28 pm 
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heres a pic of my modified sump

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:54 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
true but in time it will be easier...
more and more people are learning ways around the electrical side of things..
at the moment the costs outway the results..


Unless.. its got a snail strapped on the side!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:28 am 
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That sump is alot easier to modify than the K Frame for sure and a piss easy job for a welder

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:49 am 
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yeah that sump looks good,still.......easier to weld the k frame but,alot better if you can weld alloy up like that though !

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:15 am 
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+1, trust me, cutting, welding the K frame is a piece of fricken piss!!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:15 am 
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i've read its possible to fit the e-series sump, but this thread seems to suggest its too difficult...
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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:03 am 
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The A series sump is what’s called a “Structural Sump”. The E series sump is light gauge sheet metal pressed.
The reason Ford went for the “Structural Sump” was to reduce longitudinal flex in the in-line 6 motor and therefore reduce oil leaks which earlier Fords were well known for and to also reduce engine vibrations so as to make the new model Falcon a smoother vehicle. Ford spent many millions of dollars designing and developing these sumps.

Modifying these sump is probably not recommended and even though Fordom has done an excellent job welding his, I’d be concerned about potential future problems, that could be encountered due to modification i.e. oil volume, oil leaks, oil pickup problems etc.

As for cutting the k frame without engineering certificate etc, I’m sure it can be done but again, what potential problem are you introducing that might not be immediately obvious? Again, Ford spent many millions of dollars designing and developing that part of the car. Is cutting and welding it a good idea???


I’m not trying to throw a bucket of water on what could otherwise be an excellent mod to an E series Ford, but I just thought I’d put a different point of view on the table an share my thoughts.
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 Post subject: Re: AU 4.0L into E series question
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:27 am 
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Yeah thats why ford welded the rear suspension support in my au 1 after it came off the assembly line , thats why i cant get toe link adjusters,thats why they filled the rear quarters with foam on x series,thats why i got crap e series brakes on my au,thats why they had to make the xp falcon,thats why they made the 3.3 ohc motor, they dont always no what they are doing,holdens dont have chassis,daewoos have 20 year old camira engines,350z have renualt engines,every thing can be improved if the e series was so good the FG would just have different panels on.GO FORTH AND MODDIFY MY CHILDREN.i could go on! the new triton has less occupant safety rating then its little brother the micra :shock:

 

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As for cutting the k frame without engineering certificate etc, I’m sure it can be done but again, what potential problem are you introducing that might not be immediately obvious? Again, Ford spent many millions of dollars designing and developing that part of the car. Is cutting and welding it a good idea???



It is when you're adding strength to the material by welding thicker steel than what it was originally made from.

 

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