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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:09 am 
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Sorry for hijack but I'll be running in an engine soon but via a auto, whats the deal here? Drive around with alot of weight in it?


Go out onto highway ( 100kmh zone ), leave car in 3rd, and accelerate as much as possible without the auto kicking back to lower gear. 50 to 100kmh and back down to 50 ( no brakes ), repeat several times...like 20 or so.

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:53 pm 
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Never sit on the same rpm longer than 2 minutes, you need to constantly change speeds, its a pain in the bum but its got to be done... I never full throttle for 1st 3000 kays but load the engine (use higher gears) easy tho on a manual but on an Auto its a pain....

NO LPG for 1st 2000 kays either!!!!!

NEVER EVER EVER use synthetic oil for the first 10,000 kays!!!!

1ST 500 kays - Running in oil then change filter & oil
1500 kays change oil & filter
5000 kays change oil & filter
10000 kays change oil & filter

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:11 pm 
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AU99 wrote:
Never sit on the same rpm longer than 2 minutes, you need to constantly change speeds, its a pain in the bum but its got to be done... I never full throttle for 1st 3000 kays but load the engine (use higher gears) easy tho on a manual but on an Auto its a pain....

NO LPG for 1st 2000 kays either!!!!!

NEVER EVER EVER use synthetic oil for the first 10,000 kays!!!!

1ST 500 kays - Running in oil then change filter & oil
1500 kays change oil & filter
5000 kays change oil & filter
10000 kays change oil & filter


i have to disagree with pretty much all of that. but each to his own

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:22 pm 
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Never had any probs yet and I have run in a couple rebuilt motors in my time......

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:39 pm 
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And i've run in alot. never had an issue with full sythetics after 1000km (both ester based PAO based synth) I don't even use running in oil. I use a particular diesel oil that i know has a very high ZDDP content.

and there are alot of E-gas engines leaving the ford factory and being run on LPG right from the first start up.


Full throttle or not it doesn't matter, it about the load you place on the engine full throttle in 4th or or %80 throttle in 5th, the rings are going to see very high load either way.

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:35 pm 
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Apparently if its a LPG engine they change the hone pattern to suit

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:10 am 
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if the blue smoke cause is glazed bores, how are the bores deglazed??
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:05 am 
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If this hasn't eleviated it, you may need to do the "Ajax" trick.....yes it works, done it before.


Isnt this how they run in the, pick up from the showroom drive to bathurst cars????
Remember hearing about some cars having to do the laps around Bathurst with Ajax in the oil after blowing an engine in practice... I'm talking back in the 60's/70's.... The good old days :)

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:26 am 
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If this hasn't eleviated it, you may need to do the "Ajax" trick.....yes it works, done it before.


Isnt this how they run in the, pick up from the showroom drive to bathurst cars????
Remember hearing about some cars having to do the laps around Bathurst with Ajax in the oil after blowing an engine in practice... I'm talking back in the 60's/70's.... The good old days :)


Not in the engine oil!!!!!.....run it through the intake...trickle it in....1 teaspoon does the trick.

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:32 am 
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Pull out the spark plugs and examine it for signs of burnt oil. should give you some idea where the problem is. plus, have you been giving it the boot full exercise without warming up the eng properly?

 

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AU99 wrote:
cjh wrote:
If this hasn't eleviated it, you may need to do the "Ajax" trick.....yes it works, done it before.


Isnt this how they run in the, pick up from the showroom drive to bathurst cars????
Remember hearing about some cars having to do the laps around Bathurst with Ajax in the oil after blowing an engine in practice... I'm talking back in the 60's/70's.... The good old days :)


Not in the engine oil!!!!!.....run it through the intake...trickle it in....1 teaspoon does the trick.


I was only a youngun at the time.... but I remember them doing it, but didnt know how....
Funny how you remember things like that isnt it??

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:46 pm 
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Almost forgot, if the engine builder ran it in the first time I doubt it if you can embed the rings afterwards anyway. it's the first ever start, warm up & hard loading up of the rings for the very first time that helps to embed it and create a perfect ever lasting compression seal. it could mean a deference between two standard rebuilt engines, one being babied and ended up with 105rwkw & one that's been load to the max for the first time and end up with 115rwkw.

any embedding attempts after so many k's is futile I reckon...

 

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 Post subject: Re: bran new engine blowing excessive blue smoke
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:16 pm 
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Almost forgot, if the engine builder ran it in the first time I doubt it if you can embed the rings afterwards anyway. it's the first ever start, warm up & hard loading up of the rings for the very first time that helps to embed it and create a perfect ever lasting compression seal. it could mean a deference between two standard rebuilt engines, one being babied and ended up with 150rwkw & one that's been load to the max for the first time and end up 115rwkw.

any embedding attempts after so many k's is futile I reckon...


Hence the "Ajax trick"......

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:23 pm 
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Bed the cam in and build up oil pressure until lifter noise stops then drive it like you stole it (sorta). Avoid constant engine speeds.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:58 pm 
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hurry up friday so the engine can be pulled down.
slick - i always let the engine get to operating temp before giving it a hard time.
anyone want a bet what the blue smoke cause is, rings or glazed bores??lol
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