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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:32 pm 
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the engine in my ea is starting to get a knock..
my question is which engine would be best.
the ed or ef engine or the au engine??

ok the engine will be using the ea mpfi log style manifold it already has extractors .
but im also curious about the accesories can i use the ea aircon pump,power steer pump and alternator. or should i just go with the serpentine belt set up? and again will the ea aircon pump still fit?
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:38 am 
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Ive Seen EF/EL engines running the log style manifold etc, but out of all of them id assume it would be easy just to put in the ED engine.

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:50 am 
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yea cool

i know the manifold fits but im not sure whats involved with the assories.
and which engine would be best ive been told that the au engine is best due to the better head gasket ect..but ????
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:53 pm 
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if you want to get out of it cheap and easy ED would be the go, specially if yours is already mpfi.
should basically be a straight swap.

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:57 am 
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Au engine. Newer. Easy as the other motors to fit (just drop in a dizzy) better head gasket, better bottom end. Just better all round.

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:08 am 
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if your up for the challange go an au. you can pick one up on ebay for $600 or something

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:27 pm 
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thanks guys

im interested in a au engine but before i do it i still got to work out what alternator and aircon pump to use
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:00 pm 
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the motors they're selling are complete. you just need to get the computer

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:45 pm 
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there is a couple of engines on ebay but there in melb im in sydney.
so there is no doubt i will get one in sydney..
but i still have the question?? will the air con pump and alternator from the ea fit straight on the ef engine or even just the aircon pump as i dont want to disconect it...
i hope i can get the engine out without disconnecting aircon lines???
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:58 pm 
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if you use serpintine belts you WILL have to convert the aircon pump too which will involve regas. if you use ED its a traight swap and apparently the AU sump needs to be altered or swapped to a pre AU sump. as said above the dizzy will have to be put in (not coil packs) so there is a little bit to do.

my choice would be an ED motor as it can bolt straight in without no issues what so ever. the EL will require aircon regas ect and manifold swap and dizzy, EL - manifold swap, regas and possibly a few altered wires

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:26 pm 
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ok
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so is it possible to use the normal 3 belt set up on the ef engine or are the timing case covers different???

the reason why i ask is that i just got the aircon fixed (new pump +regas) and dont want to loose the gas and get another pump..

otherwise i guess i will just go with the ed engine..
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you can run an au motor with the ea manifold. but you will need an ef p/s pump ef a/c and bracket and a ef tensioner. i know this because i have done it before. the only thing you have to do is make the holes in the tensioner a couple of mm bigger so you rotate the tensioner clockwise slightly. this makes the belt mugh easier to go on. just anothe option if you dont want to put in a different computer.

 

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unless you want to rebuild the motor with a EA-ED crank... serpintine belts are alot thinker and is one belt. the easiest by far is the ED, and just unbolt the aircon pump from the block and leave it in the bay

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:56 pm 
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oh well
ill try to get a ed engine first . there is no real point in rebuilding my engine as its only a 3.9 multipoint with a bearing knock and its leaking coolent from the side of the head...
but i must say for a 3.9 it has run a 15.6 1/4 . before it started to knock.


any advice or options would help ...

thanks....
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15.6 isnt bad... yeah my 3.9 is like a siev... it leaks from almost every possible location. im rebuilding an ED motor now ready to install with the T5 :D

 

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