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 Post subject: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:20 pm 
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how hard is it to install a BBM manifold from an Ef to a Eb series 2 Motor? alot of messin about?
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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:52 pm 
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FordEb'L'unatic wrote:
how hard is it to install a BBM manifold from an Ef to a Eb series 2 Motor? alot of messin about?


Yes, a lot of messin about.

But, well worth it in the end.

You will need mechanical and electrical skills to finish it off correctly.

READ THIS to see what is involved.

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:46 pm 
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hmm..that looks like one hell of a mess to try & do lol...altho dont it give like 20kw instantly?..and is that an ef-el motor? or can u get hybrid el-ef heads?..wish i could get more power but looking at that..serious ammount of messing bout :shock:
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:22 am 
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FordEb'L'unatic wrote:
hmm..that looks like one hell of a mess to try & do lol...altho dont it give like 20kw instantly?..and is that an ef-el motor? or can u get hybrid el-ef heads?..wish i could get more power but looking at that..serious ammount of messing bout :shock:


Actually, NO, you don't actually get much in the way of max KW. What you do get is a big fat torque curve at around the 2700 to 3500 rpm mark where the BBM then switches to short runners.

Has to be one of the best mods you can do for increased perfomance and fun in a daily driver.

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:09 pm 
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Hmm sounds like it would go nice with a high stall converter =D..im after new motor anyway & the ef-el motors have bbm already on em. would i have to change my automatic transmission to an Ef-El transmission instead of a Eb transmission or doesnt matter?..or change the k frame or any modifcations? (mate just dropped his in) dunno if he changed transmissions was manual
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:14 pm 
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motor will drop straight in with your current gearbox

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:21 pm 
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sweet as that brings a great joy to me..i wana fully work a Ef or El motor tickford work it off its tits
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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:40 pm 
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the hardest part of the conversion is the bolts..... its 2 extra wires and a few hours work... easy i thought...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:58 pm 
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yup i was there sean...heh
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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:45 pm 
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EF/EL BBM and Throttle Body and support brackets
New intake manifold gasket
EF/EL Fuel Rail and Injectors and Fuel Regulator with as much of the Fuel hose attached as you can get
The metal heater pipe that goes from the back of the water pump, under the exhaust manifold, around the back of the engine and under the back of the BBM
The metal heater pipe from the lower thermostat housing
EF/EL heater pipes as they ARE different
EL ECU
EF/EL BBM Switching Solenoid and associated Vacuum pipes and fittings
EF/EL intake filter box and pipes
EF/EL throttle pedal and cable - the pedal has a different ratio than the EA-ED one
Log manifold wiring harness modified to suit the BBM shape and EF/EL TPS and ICS


This is the list given by Benj - have a few questions if anyone can asnwer them.

"EF/EL BBM Switching Solenoid and associated Vacuum pipes and fittings" - This is physically mounted on the Manifold right?

So, just unbolt the Log style manifold, slap on the new one with a bit of stuffing around with the air intake, heater pipes and throttle linkage and swapping in the EL/EF Accelerator Pedal.

BUT...............

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the hardest part of the conversion is the bolts..... its 2 extra wires and a few hours work... easy i thought...


When you say add a couple of wires - what do you mean mate? Can you elaborate?
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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:55 pm 
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the switching solinoid is Not in thee bbm. Its behiknd the washer bottle. It has 2 wores coming out of it. The hard part is getting the wires thru the firewall to the ecu.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:14 am 
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You will also have to add a pin to the ECU plug for the BBM switching wire, and splice into 12v Ignition for the other BBM wire. You will also have to unbolt the the exhaust manifold to replace the metal heater pipe etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:42 pm 
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mm yeh defs cannot be screwed doing that..keeping my eyes out for an Ef-El Xr6 tickford motor :shock: i know somone has told me yes to this before..but it is always to get more then one persons opinion..Ef-El Xr6 Tickford Motor --> eb 4 speed auto transmission compatible or have to change the transmission to Ef Or el?.. 8-)
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:44 pm 
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EB1 to AU all use the BTR transmission and are interchangeable. The only real difference is that the dipstick got deleted with the EF11 update.

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 Post subject: Re: Ef BBM manifold (turtle manifold or w/e) installation
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:48 pm 
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not up to date with the technical talk..buut...the answer iss..yes/ no ? lol
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