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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:28 pm 
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its just that this conversion has been done many many times by many people ive done 4 myself and no one has ever had bonnet clearance issues,
maybe there is something a miss somewhere??
are you trying to use the ef engine mounts or ea??
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:30 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
its just that this conversion has been done many many times by many people ive done 4 myself and no one has ever had bonnet clearance issues,
maybe there is something a miss somewhere??
are you trying to use the ef engine mounts or ea??


Used the EA mounts for certain. Asked about this before undertaking.

Sadly I now have new information about this topic, so it can be talked about again.
Unfortunately its not good or positive news.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:32 pm 
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why?
what happened.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:33 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
why?
what happened.


Only that the EF I have, will not fit under the bonnet of an EA, with EA mounts.
Id love to know why!
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:38 pm 
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thats why we ask for pics..
because we all know it does fit. you must have done something different to everyone else..
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:38 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
thats why we ask for pics..
because we all know it does fit. you must have done something different to everyone else..


Ill take some this arvo mate. Specifically for the forum.
I guess one thing I know that is slightly different is that my car is a "Tickford" 30.


Not a genuine tickford but the EA that had the Wings with the 30 badge. Not sure if that means anything or not. - shouldnt.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:49 pm 
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Just postulating on a theory at the moment.

What if the previous owner of the EA broke a mount, and only had later model engine mounts to replace them with. The EA would still fit fine. But would prevent the later engine fitting.

But with only 150k kms on the car, and a stock EA motor, I doubt it broke a mount.

Ill take a close up of the EF mounts that have not been used.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:59 pm 
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Is there a difference between the 3.9L and the 4.0L K frame in the EA?

We deffo used the EA mounts but from a 3.9L engine.. This car, apparently has an angle on the K frame close to 45 degrees where other EA's he has seen has an angle with only 10-15% angle. (similar to the EF)


I think I have parroted this back properly. I have no idea what he is on about.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:13 pm 
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the winged badge with the 30. is a 30th aviversay falcon badge. not tickford..

the k frame, engine mounts. engine block hights are all the same from 1988ea to 1994 ed..
just to add. the ef mounts will physically locate the engine the will not bolt up anyway..
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:16 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
the winged badge with the 30. is a 30th aviversay falcon badge. not tickford..

the k frame, engine mounts. engine block hights are all the same from 1988ea to 1994 ed..


Yeah.. I know its not a Tickford, thus written as "Tickford" for lack of better way to describe the wings on the badge.

Ill get pics straight after work. will probably have to post tomorrow.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:03 pm 
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just out of curiosity, have you got your trans/gearbox mounted? if not that could be allowing the engine to tilt back

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:11 pm 
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Here's some photos of my car. With the bonnet open about 150mm above the headlights, there's still +150mm clearance above the rocker cover. Only part of the rocker cover protrudes above the guards.

I'm wondering how the bonnet closed before as the 3.9 & 4.0L engines are identical in height.

 

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:00 pm 
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Looks like the motor is tilted back.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA - MY NIGHTMARE
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:05 pm 
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Barnfind-EA wrote:
So, logically, we just went and put the standard EA log manifold on. That should work right?
And maybe in some magical world where unicorns f@rt rainbows and puppies and kittens 'n sh|t, it would have been fine. But in the world I live, the god damn air conditioner pump wouldnt fit! FML!

So, logically we look at the air co pumps (seems right) so we spent hours swapping the pulley over to fit the old EA air co pump. The son of a b**ch fits, but the pulley doesnt line up.

You need to use the EF/EL AC Pump.

The only solution I am left with now is to buy an idler pulley to replace the air conditioner, and hope to hell the prick fits!

This is not even yet addressing the conversion requirement from Coil pack back to dizzy (no problems so far as this was anticipated) and also the installation of thermo-fans needing further parts and mods.

I guess my advice is that if you're going to do this conversion, and you find the bonnet doesn't fit... RUN A MILE! (or have a EB GT bonnet sitting around)

WANTED... EB GT bonnet!

EB Bonnet is no different to the EB stock bonnet. The vents were just bolted on.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:54 am 
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Have you checked the transmission has seated properly-its the only thing I can think of that would give the engine that angle, john.

 

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