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 Post subject: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:17 pm 
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Discovered today, during the transplant that the EF manifold wont fit under the EA bonnet. Anyone else found this?

Going to have to use the bloody EA intake :/
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:54 pm 
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I put and EF engine & BBM in my EA without any clearance problems and reused the EA engine mounts.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:37 am 
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I've also done it with no hassles. 89 model ea swapped with complete 94ab.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:39 am 
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Thanks gentleman. Appreciate the comments.
Hope my car is running by tomorrow night.

Ive taken a few photos and what not, I could upload, but its all been done before.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA - MY NIGHTMARE
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:15 am 
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Well I dont aim to correct anyone, or even call anyone liars so please take this statement to heart.

However, in the case of my conversion, and I accept that my case may be one of the rare one off cases (still yet to determine why) but MY EF MOTOR DID NOT FIT UNDER THE BONNET OF MY EA!

-I am fking SPEWING! Because this has caused so much drama. We have been doing this for 5 days now, and it really should have taken 2. This is a lot when you're working on your work car and borrowing someone else s car to get to work because what should be, isnt

So, logically, we just went and put the standard EA log manifold on. That should work right?
And maybe in some magical world where unicorns f@rt rainbows and puppies and kittens 'n sh|t, it would have been fine. But in the world I live, the god damn air conditioner pump wouldnt fit! FML!

So, logically we look at the air co pumps (seems right) so we spent hours swapping the pulley over to fit the old EA air co pump. The son of a b**ch fits, but the pulley doesnt line up.

None of these little surprises lead to quick and easy fixes.

The only solution I am left with now is to buy an idler pulley to replace the air conditioner, and hope to hell the prick fits!

This is not even yet addressing the conversion requirement from Coil pack back to dizzy (no problems so far as this was anticipated) and also the installation of thermo-fans needing further parts and mods.

I guess my advice is that if you're going to do this conversion, and you find the bonnet doesn't fit... RUN A MILE! (or have a EB GT bonnet sitting around)

WANTED... EB GT bonnet!
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:15 pm 
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Is the engine not fitting due to its height or width? I used all the accessories from the EF engine and kept the serpentine belt setup. If you do it this way, you need to get a new aircon hose made up to fit between the firewall and EF aircon compressor.

Also, the bottom radiator outlet is bigger on the EA. I used a flared piece of stainless steel tube and joined EA and EF radiator hoses together. Otherwise you need to use an EF/EL radiator & reservoir (or get one custom made radiator). Reuse the Bosch EA distributor as it's more reliable than the Chinese ones you buy now. The distributor may be fiddly getting it in the right positon under the BBM. There's a limited amount of space to advance/retard it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:21 pm 
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Shortshift wrote:
Is the engine not fitting due to its height or width? I used all the accessories from the EF engine and kept the serpentine belt setup. If you do it this way, you need to get a new aircon hose made up to fit between the firewall and EF aircon compressor.

Also, the bottom radiator outlet is bigger on the EA. I used a flared piece of stainless steel tube and joined EA and EF radiator hoses together. Otherwise you need to use an EF/EL radiator & reservoir (or get one custom made radiator). Reuse the Bosch EA distributor as it's more reliable than the Chinese ones you buy now. The distributor may be fiddly getting it in the right position under the BBM. There's a limited amount of space to advance/retard it.



Yeah we found the radiator hose issue as well. Going to use a EF radiator. (so glad I had the parts from an EF)
Not sure why the bonnet hits. It does, so left that right alone.
Did reuse the EA dizzy, bought a new cap. (the other one was flogged out and even seized in the centre)
Mechanical timing should be correct, as the guy fitting it has done many engine swaps, just not this mongrel job. Have access to a timing light too. Even knowing what you're doing, we have been set up for a comedy of errors.

Its not fkn funny I can tell you. The idler pully and bracket is $180. So paying $180 to NOT have air co. p****d off.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:23 pm 
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low_ryda wrote:
I've also done it with no hassles. 89 model ea swapped with complete 94ab.


Was yours a carby EA? The engine mounts from that may make it lower?
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:47 pm 
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I had a 3.9 MPFI engine. Have you got an EL ECU to operate the BBM and thermo fans? I left the EA TCM to control the shift points for the BTR auto. For the engine loom, I modifed the EA loom.

It took about 2-3 months to finish my conversion :roll:

Approx. how much extra space do you need to close the bonnet?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:07 pm 
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Shortshift wrote:
I had a 3.9 MPFI engine. Have you got an EL ECU to operate the BBM and thermo fans? I left the EA TCM to control the shift points for the BTR auto. For the engine loom, I modifed the EA loom.

It took about 2-3 months to finish my conversion :roll:

Approx. how much extra space do you need to close the bonnet?


Ouch. 2-3 months. Suppose you just want to slap me for sooking about 5 days.
Has EL ecu with J3 chip.
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:20 pm 
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don't know why you cant get it to fit under the bonnet, I fitted a au engine with the bbm to both my old ea and my ed and fit with plenty of room...
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:21 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
don't know why you cant get it to fit under the bonnet, I fitted a au engine with the bbm to both my old ea and my ed and fit with plenty of room...


I seriously wish I knew, man. Ive been shown where it hits and its quite close to the front.. perhaps only 1/4 of the way up the bonnet.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:22 pm 
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Anyone near Canberra want to take a look and tell me? Damn mystery.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:22 pm 
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post some pics..
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 Post subject: Re: EF Tickford into EA
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:24 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
post some pics..


Not sure how, mate.

The only pics I have are not close up enough to make much difference
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