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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:12 pm 
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I aslo have an 81deg thermostat, and i have no problems. It does not chew fuel, my car is actually very good on fuel. I always average about 10l per 100, and this is mostly round town with a bit of a stab every now and then.

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:38 pm 
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I know about the gear oil cooling and all that --- And the fans work... Cannot work out why car starts overheating (up to O-R when stuck in traffic after an 15 minutes of motorway 100km/h +)

Do the fans have more than one speed setting? Maybe they're stuck at low RPM's? Maybe the slightly dodgy looking oil radiator out front needs replacing? Maybe the water pump isn't pumping properly?

What the hell... Have had two of these EF's overheat and blow things already, so would prefer to turn climate control on full blast hot when it gets anywhere near the HOT mark than leave it to its own devices...


In the 1st paragraph you say that it overheats after 15mins on the hwy, check the auto fluid level/condition, this will more than likely be the problem.

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:20 pm 
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kstevo wrote:
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Nice end result.

P.S
that pic I posted is an EL Ghia dash
as mentioned dashs veriy between cars, i.e EA/EB/ED low/mid/high series and EF/EL (all same), which is why I used the service dash to give degree readings.


Does the service mode in high-series clusters give the water temp to the degree?

EDIT: That 60 - 75 jump vid is awesome! What place did you go with for your Stage 5 head?


I've tested the service dash in my EL ghia I6 and my Uncles fairmont I6, both show the same info

screen number is the number in the top left of the lcd. Below is some screenshots that I just took, hope it helps...
(NOTE: all screenshots with engine OFF)

Blank screen - flashes ford after a few seconds
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Screen 1
Top Line: number with L after it (unbuffered - shake the car, fuel level will move)
Bottom Line: Unbuffered sender resistance
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Screen 2
Top Line: Blank
Bottom Line: Engine coolant temp in **.* degrees
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Screen 3
Top Line: Engine RPM **** (4 numbers)
Bottom Line: Vehicle speed KM/HR
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Screen 4
Top Line: Oil pressure in BAR to one decimal point
Bottom Line: Battery/Alternator voltage to one decimal point
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Screen 5
Top Line: Instant fuel consumption in ltrs/100kms
Bottom Line: Current instant fuel consumption
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Screen 6 - Values here are used to calculate your trip computer
Top Line: Fuel used since Trip Avg L/100 Reset (x 0.1L)
Bottom Line: Kms Travelled since Trip Avg L/100 Reset
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Screen 7 - Used for fuel gauge
Top Line: Fuel level (buffered) in litres
Bottom Line: Buffered sender resistance
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Screen 8
Top Line: Blank
Bottom Line: Gear selection - Autos P, R,N,D,3,2,1; Manuals ??? not tested
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Screens 9 to 16, ford service numbers

Screen 17, lights up all parts including wiper bottle and service icon

Screen 18, no lights

This screen stays on forever unless you go for a drive over 2hrs.

Hows that! :)

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:26 pm 
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davops2au wrote:
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a 81 degree thermostat


hmm, why do this, they are meant to run at 91c i think you will find your car will run thru fuel a little more trying to achieve the normal temp.

But maybe you have a different ecu or whatever...


Yea, I know standard they have a 91c, however I would recomend, and use a 81c in my EL because of the extra heat that the auto puts on the cooling system. Maunals would be fine with a 91c thermostat.

I have noticed no problems in the running of the car, I would actually say that it runs smoother with the 81 in.

Hope that helps :)

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:57 pm 
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I wonder if everyone that modifies their engine and even those that don't ought to be putting in a three core radiator.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:56 pm 
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FairmontXR6 wrote:
fiend wrote:
I know about the gear oil cooling and all that --- And the fans work... Cannot work out why car starts overheating (up to O-R when stuck in traffic after an 15 minutes of motorway 100km/h +)


In the 1st paragraph you say that it overheats after 15mins on the hwy, check the auto fluid level/condition, this will more than likely be the problem.


Uhm... The whole thing should have read that it overheats when stuck in traffic AFTER being on the motorway. If that's any clearer?!!? I think you got the picture anyway, just making sure. My technical writing skills are somewhat crap.

Thanks for the thought. I know the auto box is getting pretty knackered and although I put some more fluid in to bring its level up, I've not completely changed it as was going to replace the whole box with another. The other thing there is the trans cooling radiator out the front. May replace it with a better looking unit when the bumper next gets taken off too.

Bloody good of you - thanks heaps for that. Now all I've got to do is find where the intermittent petrol smell is coming from. Charcoal box under front left guard looks okay... May start a new "GOD HELP ME" thread in 6 Cylinder Workshop and see if there's any takers on that particular dilemma.

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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:04 pm 
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Thanks mate, which plastics are you refering to?
Sorry - missed that bit. The front guard in front of the front wheel. The lines and fins. Very interesting. Would go well with some sideskirts and my Fairlane grill... Hmmph.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:32 pm 
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I am running a 72 deg. thermostat & a 3 core radiator. On a cold day the engine temp. is around the first line. Warm weather the needle is in between the first line & L. Very hot weather the needle is in between the L & M & will go down under the L on the freeway & high speed fan operation but never ever over M.
Also i am running external trans cooler & 50% mix nulon coolant. All Good.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:33 pm 
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Not a problem :D

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:12 am 
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^^ I find mine is sitting on no(R)mal after stopping for a while on a good drive on hot days.
Just driving back up the road gets the thing cooler
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:33 am 
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i have autometer guages and my el 5 litre sits on 180F (82) on normal days and gets to 210 (98) on hot days. Is this too hot? Also i dont recommend bypassing the trans oil from the radiator.
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:44 am 
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As hot as it has been here I've been stuck in peak hour traffic just tonight and it never got over M maybe got to it, doing a lot better than my EB ever did. maybe time for some new coolant?

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:31 pm 
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how do you bring up the service screen

 

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:32 pm 
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