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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:15 am 
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so i gather i need to remove the rocker assembly do i also need to remove the cam?

When you remove the rocker gear, you don't need to touch the cam. Just make sure the car is out of gear so the crankshaft can't turn (& handbrake on). The cam will stay in place if it's not disturbed. The front rocker pedestal is directly behind the cam sprocket.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:53 pm 
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ifyou need to remove the cam for any reason use a few zip ties on the cam gear andthe timing chain
then remove the bolt to the cam and remove the cam
when replacing it there is a little notch to line it all back up so as long as you dont turn the motor over or the chain youll be fine
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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:00 pm 
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take the rocker off

take the plugs alll out

get a mate to crank the motor and see if your getting oil up to the top it will take a little while

if you are change the oil and the lifters

if your not then fine out why.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:29 pm 
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bradley4567 wrote:
about 2 months ago
mobil oil
and the engine has about 100,000km on it

i was thinking failed oil pump but just putting it out there to see what everyone else thinks


there shouldnt be any blockage issues if the engine only has 100'000km on it..
either its never had an oil change or who ever sold you the engine lied to you..
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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:53 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
bradley4567 wrote:
about 2 months ago
mobil oil
and the engine has about 100,000km on it

i was thinking failed oil pump but just putting it out there to see what everyone else thinks


there shouldnt be any blockage issues if the engine only has 100'000km on it..
either its never had an oil change or who ever sold you the engine lied to you..


well once pulled apart there was no blockages and all the rocker assembly was nice and clean none the less i blew all the holes out with compressed air and it made no differance, so im 100% sure the oil pump has packed it in,

does anyone think it could be anything else?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
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will an ef oil pump fit an au engine?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:34 pm 
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Well with the rocker gear and plugs out crank it and see if u have oil. Ive just solved the same issue but there was no 1 fix.

But just see if you get oil to the top of the motor. If u are it aint the pump

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:09 pm 
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The repair manual says to check the oil filter, oil viscosity, suction pipe screen, oil pump suction screen, and oil pressure sender.

Before you resort to pulling the engine out to replace the oil pump, you could try removing the synchonizer. Using a cordless drill with a socket and extension, you can spin the oil pump and check if the oil is coming out of the feed hole in the head. I'd do it with the rocker gear off.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:17 am 
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Shortshift wrote:
The repair manual says to check the oil filter, oil viscosity, suction pipe screen, oil pump suction screen, and oil pressure sender.

Before you resort to pulling the engine out to replace the oil pump, you could try removing the synchonizer. Using a cordless drill with a socket and extension, you can spin the oil pump and check if the oil is coming out of the feed hole in the head. I'd do it with the rocker gear off.



so maybe a blocked filter, when i remove it what am i looking for on the filter?

to get to the suction pipe screen and the oil pump suction screen i need to remove the sump dont i?

and oil pressure sender? - do you mean the pressure sensor on the side of the block ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:32 am 
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if there is oil pressure at the pressure switch the oil pump is fine..
check the pressure with a mechanical external pressure gauge and see what psi it actually is at.. from memory it should be minimum 40psi at 2000rpm....
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:55 pm 
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these engines have an oil filter bypass valve incase of filter blockage dont they.
or am i mistaken?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:17 pm 
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i pulled off the oil filter out and the middle hold appears un obstructed but the smaller holes that form a ring around it are blocked from the inside by an orange bladder?

is this normal??

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:36 pm 
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The orange 'bladder' is part of the anti-syphon valve.

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 2:47 pm 
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Shortshift wrote:
The orange 'bladder' is part of the anti-syphon valve.


oh ok, well i put a new filter in and also new oil and it still no differance, so im going to buy an oil pump,

everyone agree?

 

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 Post subject: Re: noise coming from lifter area
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:04 pm 
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did you do a mechanical oil pressure test???
if not your just wasting your time playing guessing games..
you should know the procedure on fault finding bradley... or dont they teach the basics at tafe anymore??
otherwise just buy another engine... it will be cheaper...then you can fix the damage to your firewall at the same time. :wink: ..
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