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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:38 pm 
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ok heres a good 1!!!

after having an eventful week - finding yet another prob with my car, clutch cable snapping, full on @ work etc. etc. etc. - i pulled into work yesterday, all is good untill i finish and try and start my car and the F**K thing wont start!!!

now lets get the obvious out of the way... FUEL, put a 20L jerry can full with into it... nothing!!

turns over fine. took the cap off the pump, fuel is running thru both the return and sender hoses, and pump is working.

gauge says half full (a quarter b4 i put extra fuel in it) - i thought i may have a broken fuel sender telling me i have more fuel than i do as it went beserk the other day!!!

considering maybe smart lock playing up or something else electrical, but im sure some1 else with a little more knowledge and experience would be able to help!!

pretty confident all plugs, leads, vacuum hoses ect. are connected and there is no dramas there.

any sort of insight would be very much appreciated

BTW jus had new exhaust fitted, wouldnt happen to be ne thing to do with that?????

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:57 pm 
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does the smart lock light stay on when you try cranking the car over?

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:58 pm 
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prolly the dreaded tfi module on the dizzy OR the coil itself.

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:12 pm 
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whilst cranking... no. comes on breifly when switchen to ON but thats standard...

hand break and break fail light come on whilst cranking but thats normal too.

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:14 pm 
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Krytox wrote:
prolly the dreaded tfi module on the dizzy OR the coil itself.


mmm i read in a few posts that that is kinda common... that would stop the car from turning over yeah???

she was a bit rough while idling when warm would that be a tell tale sign of a shot coil???

pretty sure - like 99% - that head gasket is fine

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:29 pm 
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If the module is kaput, the car will crank as usual,
Just no spark will be produced.

Check all fuses inc. CRT lamp.
Also check engine bay fuses.
And try the old slap on the panel at your left knee

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:38 pm 
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Krytox wrote:
If the module is kaput, the car will crank as usual,
Just no spark will be produced.

Check all fuses inc. CRT lamp.
Also check engine bay fuses.
And try the old slap on the panel at your left knee


already had a quick look at the fuses but will have a more thorough look later on.

may sound stupid but CRT lamp????

wat the easiest way to check for spark with out a tester??

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:42 pm 
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djuman wrote:
Krytox wrote:
If the module is kaput, the car will crank as usual,
Just no spark will be produced.

Check all fuses inc. CRT lamp.
Also check engine bay fuses.
And try the old slap on the panel at your left knee


already had a quick look at the fuses but will have a more thorough look later on.

may sound stupid but CRT lamp????

wat the easiest way to check for spark with out a tester??



CRT Lamp is interior light fuse, controls smartlock also.

No tester? easiest way is to hold the leads terminal when someone else cranks.

Slower method, attatch a sparkplug and earth it, whilst cranking look for spark. (will need to be close)

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:36 pm 
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RIGHT!!!!!

now i have checked all fuses, all good. will check for spark later on 2nite now jus to double check....

if i remove the leads one at a time, get some 1 to crank the car for me will i see a spark in the end of the lead or will i have to hold it close to the head or rocker cover???

this wont damage ne thing will it??

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:03 pm 
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In older points type cars i've poked a screwdriver in the end of the lead and put that near earth to see if it sparks, but nowdays the preferred method seems to be to take out a plug, stick it in the lead and hold the body of the plug against the engine and crank it to see the spark jump the plug terminals.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:23 pm 
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lol

it will be noisy if it starts, with one spark plug out, but yeah it will work.
probably safer to get a spare sparkplug and put in into the end of the lead, and sit it on the rocker cover / exhaust manifold and look for sparks.

EL XR6?
does the tacho jump when you crank it?
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:25 pm 
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If it starts, then he doesn't have a problem after all. :-)
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:31 pm 
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yeah but we all know how tempermental the tfi modules are....
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:34 pm 
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sometimes, like it revs high at first when it kicks over - not turning over at all now obviously - but usually.

wat does that mean???

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:36 pm 
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not turning over at all, or its turning over (cranking) but not firing?

two completely different scenario's
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