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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:39 pm 
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yeah i meant to do it last time, but i ran out of time.

id love to leave my car there with ya for a day and say "fix!" :P lol but i havent got the fundage at the moment, and a few of my panels (cough* roof, doors, boot, qtr panels :lol: ) need respraying (clear is starting to come off in chips, not peel slowly, but full depth chips :shock: ) before i seriously think about getting a professional treatment done.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:47 pm 
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you might need more than 1 day dude, I spent more than that on one car
anyhow I suggest save your dough, get those panels resprayed, get a rotary or DA and some pads, come on in for some training and then take care of the car from there

Then even if you get a new car, you've got the tools to take care of it from scratch (teehee)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:48 pm 
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you might need more than 1 day dude, I spent more than that on one car
anyhow I suggest save your dough, get those panels resprayed, get a rotary or DA and some pads, come on in for some training and then take care of the car from there

Then even if you get a new car, you've got the tools to take care of it from scratch (teehee)


haha yeah thats true.

i work in a crash shop so i can get a respray done for a fairly good price. just need the time and space to do it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:54 pm 
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That is very very handy mate

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:53 am 
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I was just thinking about detailing and was wondering how the paint is actually layered on a car?

I'll list the order I think from bottom to top, this will help me understand better about what Im doing to the car:

7. ENVIRONMENT DAMAGE / UV DAMAGE / SCRATCHES / SWIRLS / OIL AND DIRT FILM
6. PAINT PROTECTION LAYER (ON SOME CARS)
5. CLEAR COAT LAYER
4. PAINT LAYER TWO
3. PAINT LAYER ONE
2. PRIMER LAYER
1. SHEET METAL LAYER

Is the above correct? Am I missing something or got something in the wrong order?

How deep do products like prima swirl and gtechniq p1 get into the surface?

Any help would be great. Thanks!
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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:07 pm 
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I was just thinking about detailing and was wondering how the paint is actually layered on a car?

I'll list the order I think from bottom to top, this will help me understand better about what Im doing to the car:

7. ENVIRONMENT DAMAGE / UV DAMAGE / SCRATCHES / SWIRLS / OIL AND DIRT FILM
6. PAINT PROTECTION LAYER (ON SOME CARS)
5. CLEAR COAT LAYER
4. PAINT LAYER TWO
3. PAINT LAYER ONE
2. PRIMER LAYER
1. SHEET METAL LAYER

Is the above correct? Am I missing something or got something in the wrong order?

How deep do products like prima swirl and gtechniq p1 get into the surface?

Any help would be great. Thanks!


Well I'm not a painter but I think its something like this

1. Sheet metal
2. Primer
3. Coloured paint (2 to 4 coats)
4. Clearcoat - (3 to 4 coats)

then you have the rest that you listed on top

Prima swirl and all other products except Glare, only enter the clear coat pores (however tiny they are) and remove clearcoat film material

However many do deep clean the clearcoat.

Glare on the other hand, enters and cleans out paint pores and soaks into the clearcoat and possibly even the colour coats and enhances the finish without removing any film material

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:21 am 
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Great thanks for that Aurora98! I very interested in purchasing some of your products. The one I have my eye on is the Trim Dream product. How do I go about buying this stuff from you? Do you have a website?
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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:05 pm 
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I think you will find that its not availible for public sale yet..

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:07 pm 
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No website yet, no one I've seen has the ability to do the kind of website I want to have made
Got a friend working on something to start me off with however. It will only be a temporary one

Trim Dream DIY version is available but the Pro Version which is a more in depth formulation for machine use, is not available and shall remain available to only one shop in each state
Detroit custom bodyworks in Sydney are the first possible shop (custom paint and full restoration)

Trim Dream is available in two sizes, 3 x 60ml or 3 x 125ml
$35 or $70 dollars. All hand made too at the moment

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:09 pm 
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No website yet, no one I've seen has the ability to do the kind of website I want to have made

What kind of website did you want made i do mainly clan sites but i have some good contacts that could help ya
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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:47 pm 
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well it must have videos on it and maybe some flash but needs to have hi def photos, the right text, list of my services, portfolio and the other usual stuff
Basically background like my logo (blue sky, clouds up top, open road in the middle)

The site needs to get me some of my work rather than me chasing after it 100%

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:40 am 
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I might get some of the trim dream when i come up in a couple weeks man. ill let ya know in advance ne ways. :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:58 am 
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Cool, next couple of pays I'll contact you to purchase some trim dream diy.

Finally got some time to take pics 1 week after the wax. There was dirt build up so I just quickly wiped with warm wet microfibre (MF) wipe then dried with a seperate MF wipe. Just caught some sunlight!

All pics are of bonnet. You can see at these two angles the bonnet looks ok...
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Funny how a camera angle and certain lighting angles make it look good.
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Upon closer inspection, looks pretty bad. You can see the paint chips in this first pic. Most of them are at the front. I've heard they have problems with the paint on BA's with shockwave paint and had a recall. I think that might extend to narooma blue too!

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Front on shot you can see speckles and chips.
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Can you see the problems I've got? :D
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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:56 pm 
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Chips on the front bar and bottom of the hood can be dealt with some touch up paint or a specialist touch up guy (try superfinish express)

The swirls and scratches are far easier to sort out, it will just take plenty of TLC by hand or far less time and effort by using a random orbital machine or rotary (go for the RO as they are cheaper and cant damage the paint)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Car Detailing Tips & Tricks Part II
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:36 pm 
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Can you recommend some products and/or the process to wet sand paint with no clear coat?

I have a 97 EL Fairmont Ghia in White that has pretty bad orange peel on the doors that I'd like to knock back and smooth out.

I am getting myself an RO soon with an 8mm orbit. Would this be enough to finish it off after the sanding? Or is rotary the only option?


Also while I'm at it, what can be done for the rubbers around the rear window and rear quater windows on EF/EL's?

 

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