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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:58 pm 
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there is a tinter for 2K paint called 'matting agent ! ' i have a tin of it home that im going to try with some 2K black ;) ,
going to give that ago and see how it looks :P

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:04 pm 
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as MRE-50L said, you can get a flattening agent for clear coat.

all the benefits of a clear coat with the look of matte.

but a lot of the expensive cars that are matte black have been wrapped, rather then wrecking an already perfect paintjob.
when trends change, vinyl off and car is gloss red or what ever it came as.

otherwise you can get matte paints, just spray em on and done.
but they tend to mark easy, don't last, fade etc.

my wagon is done the cheap way :P

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:08 pm 
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http://www.exotickustoms.com.au/murderedd/


Anyone know what kind of $$$ something like that would cost?
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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:25 pm 
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EFFalcon wrote:
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I like everything about the "murdered" BA, besides the rims...would look better with some deep dish IMO.

BTW how do they make it matt black? is that like some vinyl that they just heat shrink on the car or something?


a lot of the more exotic cars are vinyl wrapped now.
its not really heat shrunk, but heat is used to give it pull/stretch where needed.


I see...learn something new everyday.

When I was spraying the fairings on my bike. I just used matte black from a spray can...worked out just fine haha

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:31 pm 
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there was a laser round years ago shot ,murdered what ever you want to call it sounded like a plane
first time i ever heard a blow off valve.
i would love to have an e series done ,fill in all the gaps ,do some deleting and smooth all parts suicide rear doors
put some crate engine in it and use real wood accents in the interior and drive it on the weekend
alas the missus hates the idea
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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:56 pm 
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phongus wrote:
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I like everything about the "murdered" BA, besides the rims...would look better with some deep dish IMO.

BTW how do they make it matt black? is that like some vinyl that they just heat shrink on the car or something?


a lot of the more exotic cars are vinyl wrapped now.
its not really heat shrunk, but heat is used to give it pull/stretch where needed.


I see...learn something new everyday.

When I was spraying the fairings on my bike. I just used matte black from a spray can...worked out just fine haha


you'll normally get a fairly decent finish to start with.

and on a bike i guess its a little bit protected from some elements.

but without a clear it has a tendancy to mark easy, if its left outside it'll also fade.
It also comes down to the quality of the paint.

someone i know painted their turbo starlet matte black, and it faded fairly quickly.
my wagon seems to be standing up to the weather pretty good, but the paint marks easy.

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Its just the paint you buy. Can get something called GMH black or RFU black which are an under body paint. They are very runny paint and dont need thinners to sprayand you can get 4L of that stuff for $20 which is plenty to paint a car. Another option is you can get something like Protect 10% gloss black which is a normal automotive arcylic paint so it will need thinners. 4L liters of that is around $100 but prices will depend on the brand of the paint and the shop you get it from.

According to the shop I spoke to with the 10% gloss stuff you can polish it once it completely cured and make it a bit shinnier or leave it with the matt finish and it doesnt need a clear coat but the other stuff you cant realy polish unless you clear coat it which would then change its appearence. Also the shop couldnt comment on how the GMH/ RFU black would last being used as the primary paint but did say if it did fade or go blotchy after a while its not expensive to just repaint the car


Theres even pictures in that link of a car getting wrapped. :roll: Of course you can get matte paint, but thats not how the majority of decent cars are done.

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:43 pm 
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EFFalcon wrote:
phongus wrote:
EFFalcon wrote:
phongus wrote:
I like everything about the "murdered" BA, besides the rims...would look better with some deep dish IMO.

BTW how do they make it matt black? is that like some vinyl that they just heat shrink on the car or something?


a lot of the more exotic cars are vinyl wrapped now.
its not really heat shrunk, but heat is used to give it pull/stretch where needed.


I see...learn something new everyday.

When I was spraying the fairings on my bike. I just used matte black from a spray can...worked out just fine haha


you'll normally get a fairly decent finish to start with.

and on a bike i guess its a little bit protected from some elements.

but without a clear it has a tendancy to mark easy, if its left outside it'll also fade.
It also comes down to the quality of the paint.

someone i know painted their turbo starlet matte black, and it faded fairly quickly.
my wagon seems to be standing up to the weather pretty good, but the paint marks easy.


Yeah I figured it might not be great for everyday thing...but my bike doesn't seen the light of day much and even if it did, I would have probably crashed it so paint was the least of my worries haha.

I know what you mean by it easily marked...even a scratch from your nails is a nuisance.

EDIT: This may be a stupid question...but would that mean you can actually peel the vinyl off again once you get sick of the matte look?

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:49 pm 
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phongus wrote:
EDIT: This may be a stupid question...but would that mean you can actually peel the vinyl off again once you get sick of the matte look?


thats exactly what it means.

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:53 pm 
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EFFalcon wrote:
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EDIT: This may be a stupid question...but would that mean you can actually peel the vinyl off again once you get sick of the matte look?


thats exactly what it means.


Well I guess that is a pretty cheap option if you change your mind later down the track, assuming cost is not ridiculously high.

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:53 pm 
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matt paint is crap! the only good thing is its easy to blend and touch up.......yes it marks easy, yes it fades easy and its s**t to keep clean! ......BUT! you can now buy a 2K clear matt finish! i havent tried it yet but apparently its supposed to stop all that s**t.
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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:32 pm 
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All this talk is getting me more excited for my tail lights to come. They should b here in the next day or two.
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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:58 pm 
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Well there you go.. Never heard of the term "Murdered" before.. is it another state thing?

 

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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Yeh it's a state thing. Pretty big in the euro scene too. Old e30 bmw's look the bussiness murdered out. And also I'd like to add that I too am not even close to a fan of matt black murdered cars. Not even the royce. Makes ur car look like a chalk board. Polished is the only way to go imo.
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 Post subject: Re: "Murdered" cars
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:13 pm 
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i should have a price on how much it will cost ! in a day or 2

 

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