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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:02 pm 
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Parts are the easy bit. Physically bolting the dash etc in is the easy bit.

The hard part is making up wiring adaptor looms to interface the car with the EL dash parts.

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:43 am 
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keep us updated, cause i was looking at putting an ef/el dash into an XH... would it be similar job to your? or even easier?

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:26 am 
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yeh i was gonna run 351 or even 393 windsor but was thinking fuel injected... would this make it all to hard with redoing all the dash? but then again i supose they have the same cluster so its not really changing much wiring like you are.?

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:36 pm 
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effalcongli - The firewall in the XH is identical to the XF. That said you would have the same problems as ashcook will, but it would be heaps easier because all the electronic stuff is half there. If would be more to do with the actual mounting of the dash.

Ashcook....It may be easiest to just put the EF xr8 motor in the car and associated electrics that way you won't have to manufacture all the looms. If in the end the dash from the ef doesn't fit you can always put a XH dash in. They are old fashioned but you can still add all the luxuries. Snap 0964 (a member on here) has managed to add climate control, woodgrain interior, ABS, cruise, etc etc to his XH without having the change the dash so it might pay to send him a pm as he has a wealth of knowledge.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:25 pm 
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XHII V8S wrote:
Snap 0964 (a member on here) has managed to add climate control, woodgrain interior, ABS, cruise, etc etc to his XH without having the change the dash so it might pay to send him a pm as he has a wealth of knowledge.
Just search using my forum name - everything's been posted on here. Look in the X series tech doco's too.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:39 pm 
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That's the go!
Looks like your half way there...lol.
Whats going to be your plan for the windscreen demisters?
When I did mine I just cut the top off the demister duct and used clear pvc tubbing and ran that up to the windscreen. Using smaller tube to run across the windscreen through holes in the dash.
My brother didn't even bother to do his. Just cut the top of the duct so it would fit behind the dash and left it like that.
Good work .
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:18 pm 
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Your black xf trim will fit back on.
I had to cut some off the bottom to make it shallower (if you get what i mean).
Here's a pic hopefully.
yes different dash I know.

 

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:49 am 
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The window pillar can be covered by finding the window pillar plastic out
of your XR6 donor can't it?

Hmmmph - I am trying to talk my friendly garage owners brother into
buying my Futura or Fairmont dash and loom to put in his V8 box the
same as yours.

I think the interior side of things confuses him - but he's the best man at
putting any V8 into anything. He currently runs a big block Ford in a Toyota
landy for his 4WD things and was the first guy I met to rig up two
handbrakes (lefty and righty)... In the 80's...

But hell, getting him enthusiastic about changing the tired old interior
is hard work!
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:34 am 
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Try clicking on this and checking out page 6 (or thereabouts)... It is BENJ's classic thread.... He didn't put 9 inch speakers in the front doors like I did tho..! Slack - As there are no big rear speakers in your UTE, I suggest putting 6x9" speakers in front doors (relatively simple if you have a nibbler and some patience - and use the EF or EL door linings.)
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:32 am 
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Sounds like you're thinking along the same lines as
someone who knows what they like and has a fair idea
of what they're doing.

Good for you.

Only thing --- If you make all your pictures about 6 or 700
wide it will stop all this need to scroll left and right to read the messages... Although, I am not sure how Internet Explorer handles displaying messages on this site - I use Firefox... And I have to scroll left and right to read the bloody messages. For instance, this line I am now typing on will not be visable to me until I scroll right.

Where as this paragraph will be. mainly becuase I push carraige return (enter)
after each line of typing...!

Whatever,

all good brother- I am going to put all my rantings and photos into one build
thread one day so as to make sense of it all myself!


Look forward to seeing your UTE speaker placement!
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:31 pm 
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Charcoaled BBQ with ashcook wrote:
cheers for the tip, I'll have to figure out how to modify the pics. ...

yeahp, I'm a geek. It's cool tho, way better than being a nerd.
Charcoaled BBQ with ashcook wrote:
I've been building this car for about 2 years. The body looks terrible as I am leaving it till last. Just needs paint. I keep thinking of things to do to it so I want to get all the changes and mechanical parts working 100% before I throw some paint at it. Will get some pics up soon!

MATE - I know how you feel entirely. Am working on a big old build thread for my car now... And boy, what a bloody mess!...

PAINT would be great, in the meantime, maybe a personalised plate with "UGLY" on it would do?!
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:39 pm 
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Good setup I'd say... If those speakers are anything like the 6x9's I have in my boot you wouldn't need a SUB with them sitting right on ya a*** like that!!!

Man, I have really got this "stuffing about with cars" bug bad! Looks like a bit of effort put in there too... Any luck with the pillars being the same as the ones out the EF or EL donor?
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:51 pm 
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Good s**t man - That's real onto it. I'm going to make up something for the boot of my wagon one day once I've paid off a few things here and there and everywhere. Just going to use wood and coat it in paint I think!

A couple of drawers low down with a couple of spaces for buckets and containers to be put... And a big space for drop saws and the like.. Just like a ute hard top with a couple of rear seats and enough space for a 15" LCD DVD screen.

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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:03 am 
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Sounds like a bloody great toy. Wouldn't mind a toy like that meself... One day (once I've started earning money again,......!)
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:26 pm 
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i know this sounds dumb, but i havent the slightest clue.. the area behind the seats where that carpet covered box thingo is, does that do anything? or just hide the space? and could i chuck in a sub or two straight into that box???

 

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