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ok have got some numbers and it looks promising.
two topups - both city driving/commuting, after 28.75 km took 2.68 litres - 10.72 kpl or 30.5 mpg after another 64.7 km took 5.6 litres - 11.55 kpl or 32.85 mpg both filled at same bowser. I'm liking this trend. this is a vehicle that averages 27mpg for this type of driving (29 on ultimate) i'm using normal unleaded for this testing but there probably was still a fair percentage of ultimate in tank at the start so have to wait for that to get diluted for a more accurate comparison.
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topped up again this arv, & better still.
63.85 km took 5.3 litres, - 12.04 kpl, - 34.25 mpg - that is 24.5% increase
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Please excuse ingnorance .
Is the gist of this mixing Hydrogen and Petrol ? If so would a more professional approach be to do a LPG style conversion with the tank to hold Hydrogen gas and the car is setup to mix to the two like injected two strokes ? Or depending on the volume of Hydrogen gas to petrol it may allow removeable canisters like those small camp stoves sold in K-Mart etc ? |
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The idea behind this is to add both hydrogen and oxygen into the system at the same time while not having to carry tanks of gas which may annoy the rego guys in some states (oh to live in vic with no B***dy inspection each year.
From what I understand this helps in 2 ways. 1 Hydrogen mixing with oxygen going boom 2 any unburnt oxygen left from the unit helps the petrol burn. Hope this helps |
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had a minor setback yesterday arvo - got home and checked cell, - no bubbles. Took it apart and found 1 electrode had broken at the connection inside cell.
So i rebuilt it with a different method to attach electrodes. was just an experiment after all. But i will keep on with it since results are very promising.
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Hey Garthr,
Any chance of getting some pictures of the cell???? See Ya |
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The other question is will it work with LPG? I dont see why not as hydrogen and oxygen will help LPG to burn good too.
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yeah will try to post a couple pics up this evening.
i think it should be easier to get improvement with lpg because u have ability to control mixture at will. if hydrogen works with petrol & diesel then it should be good with lpg. that's just my theory - have do some research/testing to find out for sure.
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numbers are better still this arv, - 12.62 kpl (35.89 mpg)
that is now 30% improvement! here are some pics You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
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Hey Garth, nice pix of ya coffee jar, hehehehe. Just wondering if ya can smell the coffee in the exhaust gases? Just kidding, all jokes aside Garth, I think your onto something very very BIG. Looking foward when we can fit one of those badboys onto my excavator and truck. I spend around $2000 a month on diesel and would LOVE to reduce that by 30% if thats possable
 . If it is you wont have to buy beer ever again mate believe me,  hahahahaha. cheers Marcus. 
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Hi Gathr,
I'm currently simulating the system on my own. It is made up of a peanut butter jar, two protruding electrodes at the jar cover and small hose going through jar cover as well just above water surface, meant to channel HHO gas.....? The small hose is then placed in a cup of water to detect any presence of gas. But it seems i cant channel the gas through the hose although there bubbles in the water. Did i miss anything or the connections need to be air-tight? |
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Thanks for doing the pioneering work Garthr. Would you mind linking in a few pics of your cell if you can?
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Sorry to double up the pics question. I did not see page 2 to this forum until after I posted the question. Please upgrade me to Fordmods Gumby Newbie
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Quote: I'm currently simulating the system on my own. It is made up of a peanut butter jar, two protruding electrodes at the jar cover and small hose going through jar cover as well just above water surface, meant to channel HHO gas.....? The small hose is then placed in a cup of water to detect any presence of gas.
But it seems i cant channel the gas through the hose although there bubbles in the water. Did i miss anything or the connections need to be air-tight? yes -especially if u want any sort of pressure to build u do need everything to seal properly. - not so important i think when u are connected to engine vacuum. just allows a small amount of extra air to go into motor with the gas.
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this is a document that i got a lot of info from
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