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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:02 pm 
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I could pick it up one of these ebay To4e's off a friend for 1500 including an intercooler, peppertree manifold, 45mm wastegate and 3inch dump pipe.. but i heard they werent any good? but for 1500????? :S

Tony, from speedfactory gave me this quote for a turbo kit installed.

Manifold split pulse design
Turbonetics T04 Turbo
Turbonectics Racegate
2 x Racegate gaskets
EA-AU manifold gasket
Manifold Bolt kit
Turbo bolts and nut kit
Turbo turbine exhaust clamp
3â€￾ Pipe work
Air cleaner
45 degree Rubber elbow
2 x 3â€￾ clamps
9cm 3â€￾ silicon hose
1 x 45deg 3â€￾
2 x 3’ clamps
Connector to turbine
3â€￾ downpipe
O2 sensor bung
Flange to exhaust
Flange wastegate
40mm 45 deg pipe bend
Ems 8860
Plug kit
Map sensor hoses
Wide band sensor plugs
440cc Injectors
Malpassi
High volume fuel pump
Hose clamps X 6
Fuel injection hose 5/16
Bosch BOV
6mm vacuum tubing
brass fitting for tapping into manifold
25mm pipe fitting
25mm tubing
2 X 25mm tubing
Thermostat cover gasket
Thermostat cover
Top radiator hose
2 X brass 90deg fittings
2 X 90 deg brass fittings turbo
silicon hose
Sender extension
Brass conector to extension
Brass tube joiner
Brass conection into turbo
Restrictor
5/16 bundy tubing
Oil drain flange
16mm steel tube
16mm silicon tubing
Cargo sealer
2 x 25mm clamps
K&N filter
Stainless steel scourers
2 X 90 deg 25mm PVC fittings
500mm X 25mm tubing
4 X 25mm clamps
2 X 25mm grommets
18cm 2.5â€￾ perforated tubing
18cm 1.5â€￾ perforated tubing
18cm 3.5â€￾ tube
steel bung
2 X brass hose ends
brass drain C**k
PVC tubing 1m
Battery Tray
Tray mounts
+tve cable
-tve cable
2 X lugs
2 X battery terminals

$8000 non intercooled.

how does that sound? reasonalble price? The manifold is designed to have a T66 bolted on as an upgrade for the T04 if i decide for big power later on.

What do you guys think?
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:26 am 
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What sort of power are you after ??
A wastgated Gt3540 for $1850 would save heaps and still make over 350 / 300 rwkw @ 12/ 15 Lb and thats over what the trans will take!!!
$8k would be o/k if it included intercooler..
Btw split pulse is realy a benefit when your using big turbo on small engine.. T04E is not supper large on a 4.0...The Gt series are not spit pulse and thay make heaps power...
These make 700 h.p max..
http://www.gcg.com.au/Catalogue_Menus/G ... 540_iw.htm

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:51 pm 
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8 grand... well its all gear but would be nice if he did the intercooler too as you'd be pretty silly to spend that much and not intercool it... they stopped running cars without coolers in the late 80s...

1500 isnt too bad if it was a good to4, but if its a china job then its most likely crap... but think about the prices for a manifold, wastegate, dump pipe... they will go over 1500 alone
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:05 pm 
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how can u tell if its a good turob or not?

How would i find out what turbo would bolt onot this peppertree manifold???????
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:11 pm 
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Find out what flange is on the manifold... most likely be a T3 or T4 flange, so your covered for pretty much all garrett turbos.

Can you get a pic of the turbo and post it up? Or look on the back of the comp housing, there should be an ID tag which will tell you what it is... look out for dodgy garrett ripoffs... Xpower theyre called. avoid them
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:22 pm 
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yeah ill have to get some pics up.

thanks for the awesome info.

The setup for 8k was run on a STOCK auto ED with 3.27 single spin diff and electronic shift kit. and it was running 12.7s coz i saw it at the motorplex, which is how i found out about the kits..

Are peppertree manifolds good?
Tony said he wont install other setups, but he will install an EMS and tune it with all the fuel parts upgraded (pump injectors etc)for 3k. Would that be worth it?
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:32 pm 
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3 grands about the going rate, not bad if it includes pump and injectors and good dyno tune.

High 12s are the go for that kind of set up... though i wouldnt do it without an intercooler
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:12 am 
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I think that flange is T3 size and it run a Gt35/40 and broke well into 11 seconds...
Did you buy recently?? Including dump pipe?
For street use and simplicity it'll serve you well...

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:08 pm 
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didnt really understand ya post there mate ^^ ???/
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the guy i talked about at the start of the thread with the cheap setup, said i could have everything minus the turbo for 900 bucks..
do u think i should buy it? or is it too risky? I was thinking if i did buy it, i could buy a decent T04 or similar and bolt it up, fork out 3k for the computer/fuel upgrade and get going?

HE gave me some more information about the turbo he was trying to sell me.
He said it was a turbo technics turbo with these numbers on it:
TYpe TO4e ,Part NO t3/t
4040328134-4
And a T imprint on the dark coloured part of the turbo.. (dunno what he means by that)
So if i rang up turbotechnics could the able to match that part? Or should i still be worried as it may be a copy?
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:15 pm 
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Believe it or not it may have t3 flange pattern..Dont worry they are not hard to change or adapt....

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:37 pm 
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tony's turbos are good. Very pedantic tho and are'nt the most cost effective. He designs the kits to last forever. 8K is alot really, but if your goin to go for anything over 15 psi and put a intercooler on too, its not too bad.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:11 pm 
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$900 seems a good deal, Id happily pay that
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:20 pm 
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that is good!
do it carl ;)

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:28 pm 
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yep, then slap a decent Garrett on it and your almost there
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:08 pm 
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then a ecu, external W/G, zorst, plumbing and a tune!!

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