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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:09 pm 
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Yea, thanks for that I got a set of Professional products 10600, anodized allum blue + braided lines which are pretty nice from summit:)

Got most of my parts needed for the build, only two things I need now are engine mounts and a new set of custom extractors, Did you guys have any trouble with your engine mounts? I'm having trouble with the 5L ones fitting they are about half a centimeter off from the mount to block. There's a little lip on the block that is stopping the mount from moving the half centimeter I need to line up. I know with the F150's they have a 1" spacer that goes between the block and the mount, but that doesn't work for me either because the dart motor has two coolant line fittings coming out of the passenger side in between the two engine mount bolt holes on the block that stops the spacer from fitting

so i've had a few idea's just wanted to see what you guys thought,

1. TIG up the old bolt hole, weld a metal plate for reinforcement and then drill a new bolt hole
2. cut a bit out of the spacers

what do you guys think?
thanks for your help guys :)
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:09 pm 
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I might just add as well, i'm leaning towards modifying the mount for the bonnet clearance
rather than the 1" lift from the spacer
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:51 pm 
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4.9 EF Futura wrote:
xcabbi wrote:
What's the go with selling the yankee injected 302 engines for more than the aussie versions. EB HO's go for less and are almost the same engine. Do these guys think their customers are dum or something.


Dunno - I assume you referring to the 302W multi point fuel for $3850? I guess depends on how reconditioned they are... can get aussie HO for about $2200 - $2400 and AU explorer motor for $4500 at wreckers down here in SA but bit of a lucky dip on their condition and kms...


i got my AU Explorer V8 motor for $575 essentially brand new and untouched from my tafe :D
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:40 pm 
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427stroker, I would switch to a an EF-L K-member and use mounts from the same because they are much better and stronger than the EB ones. You may gain the block clearance you need at the same time?
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:33 pm 
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Thanks XR9,

I've finished off the build with an EB cross member, in the end I had to slot the engine mount bolt holes about 10mm.

Used edelbrock victor EFI intake which is pretty tall and with the block being an inch taller as well had to cut through the bonnet + brace and reinforce the whole lot. luckily the EB GT bonnet scoop just fits over it and looks normal

Currently at the tuners. i'll keep you guys posted with power figures
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:26 am 
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No wuckers,

The Edelbrock is a good piece...you'd be in the same boat with TFS anyway....Edelbrock quality is usually higher I find too.
What are you/they tuning it with?

Pete.
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:29 am 
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Had a Haltech E6x lying around so just used that. tuners are having problems on light throttle at the moment from 0 -30% for some reason. hopefully they can sort it out soon
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:02 pm 
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Ok Folks here's the mods required to the alternator bracket to clear the block ground strap boss(the bolt boss sticking out below the head in the shot below) which now gets in the way thanks to the taller deck height.

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Here is the before shot...

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It seems these EFI type rocker covers do have enough clearance for the alternator...

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Might have to reclock the regulator housing for clearance.


Of Note Pete, If you use EF/EL brackets there is no need to notch the said alternator bracket. Also the 5.0 belt seems to fit but is very tight, provided you have underdrives on the balancer, water pump and a smaller pulley on your alternator.

Just thought i would share.

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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:29 pm 
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Thanks Brett but, mine were from an EF/L....only the alternator was from an EB.
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:37 pm 
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Mine bolted straight up. No need to mod. I used an F4TE roller block. Wonder if that made any difference.

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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:21 pm 
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Could be that the F4 block has a different posi for the ground strap boss? Did you take any pics?
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:29 pm 
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Nope sorry didnt. Will get some later this week. Car is not with me, its at SWC's get custom panel work to clear the Box-R mainfold.

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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:16 am 
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Hi Pete,

Yea I'm like nine months late with this info but as you know I've used an F4TE roller block in mine and I had to nip a bit off the alternator bracket to clear the block.

Had mine going for almost 3yrs now, goes good!

This engine still in Shannons car?

What you up to?

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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:23 am 
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Hey Jimmy!

Good to hear it's going well.
Shannon loves the 351 in his...he's always talking about 3rd gear drifting :mrgreen:
I'm doing too many projects as usual...
I Got Jill an ED 5.0L Futura....so of course I can't leave that alone :mrgreen:
I'm doing a 351w/4R70w conversion to my '93 Range rover and of course the Cougar is slowly progressing. I've also had enough of my tin shed and I'm drawing up plans for a brick shed tall enough for a hoist which will allow me to park 3 cars in.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: 351W into XE ute
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:26 pm 
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Took these pics of the difference between 50oz 5.0L flexplate and 28oz 5.8L flexplate. Both are 164T and you can see the bigger counterweight on the 50oz job. See the BTR flexplate has AOD stamped into it? The bolt patterns are identical so this means you can use an AOD/AODE/4R70 or C4 without changing flexplates.
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