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 Post subject: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:41 am 
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Thought I'd provide a few pictures and general factoids about the Windsor factory intake manifolds as the topic comes up often enough.
For instance, all these factory intakes have longer runners which improves the lower ~ mid range torque. On the other hand, aftermarket intakes generally feature shorter runners which can assist with developing power up higher in the rpm range.




HO
average flow approx 140cfm
ports are inline
OEM fitment to EB, ED, EF, EL
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Explorer
average flow approx 170cfm
ports are staggered - lower intake is same for Explorer, GT40 & Cobra.
OEM fitment to EL XR8 (later series) , FBT, AU XR8
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GT40 ( Tubular )
average flow approx 195cfm
ports are staggered - lower intake is same for Explorer, GT40 & Cobra.
OEM fitment to EB GT, EL GT
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Cobra
average flow approx 200cfm
ports are staggered - lower intake is same for Explorer, GT40 & Cobra.
OEM fitment to ED Sprint
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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:36 am 
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Probably worth mentioning that Explorer lowers cast from late 1997 (ie all Aussie Explorer intakes fitted to V8 AU Falcons) did not have the IAT sensor mounting hole or even the undrilled mounting boss, so any upgrade from an HO intake to an "Aussie" Explorer intake needs to consider this

The EL2 XR8 seemed to get the "early Explorer" lower intake that still had the IAT sensor in the standard location.

Whereas the Cobra lower carried the standard IAT sensor location on to the present day.

Strange that Ford would have two variants of the same lower. Usually they just use the same lower and don't drill & tap eg. 1994-95 HO Mustang uses an HO lower with undrilled IAT sensor mounting boss.

And the AU3 XR8 had a match ported Explorer, and flowed a little more. Gasket matching was done on the lower (both ends of the runners) and the upper (runner end), with the upper also match ported to accept a 70mm TB.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:26 am 
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yea very nice vic. simple with pics will definatly help alot of people that are unsure of what they are looking at / for.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:12 pm 
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xafalcon wrote:
Probably worth mentioning that Explorer lowers cast from late 1997 (ie all Aussie Explorer intakes fitted to V8 AU Falcons) did not have the IAT sensor mounting hole or even the undrilled mounting boss, so any upgrade from an HO intake to an "Aussie" Explorer intake needs to consider this

Ah that's right, yes.


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Good write up Vic.

Cheers... was going on memory.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:07 pm 
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This is very helpfull, thanks Vic.
Pardon my ignorance, but I have the $hitty H.O manifold on my Ef xr8 and am looking to upgrade to most likely the Explorer, and have pretty much given up on any chance of coming across the convenient El series 2 manifold with the sensor and all. So I'm wondering if you guys could give me a rough sort of figure as to how expensive/difficult the modification to any AU explorer manifold I might get is likely to be? thanks fellas
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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:43 pm 
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I think the sensor is usually tapped in at runner #5 but you can easily insert it into the intake piping between the MAF and TB.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:07 am 
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Vic wrote:
I think the sensor is usually tapped in at runner #5 but you can easily insert it into the intake piping between the MAF and TB.


Just remember that this IAT sensor relocation will move the inlet air temperature reading below the adaptive learning window on all but the hotest of days (38°C and above), unless a chip is fitted with a reduced "minimum Intake Air Temp for adaptive learning". The stock setting for the adaptive learning window on all E-series V8's is 100 - 200°F = 38 - 93°C, which is set at this level due to the intake air heating as it passes through the manifold on the way to the temperature sensing point at the end of #5 intake runner.

The best solution is to use the cobra (or EL2, GT40, early explorer) lower intake which already has the IAT boss in #5, next best is the chip, and finally weld a boss onto the original location.

Running without adaptive learning takes away a lot of the benefit of electronic fuel injection, best to keep it in my opinion.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Thanks guys. Will keep this in mind.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:54 pm 
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Wow, that's a brilliant write up, the sort of tech info that this site needs more of! Nice work dude. Just needs to be made into a full tech doc now.

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:15 pm 
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Nice thread dude, will come handy for alot of people.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:11 pm 
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thanks heaps for this, i've been trying to explain this to a few people.
the tubular manifold, does that run the same lower as the other explorer manifolds?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:49 pm 
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Yes, as mentioned in the first post, the lower intakes are the same except for the HO intake.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:48 pm 
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yep saw that after i posted.
anyone know what intake the ts/te50s used? i haven't had a good look at one before.

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:05 am 
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XCSEDAN wrote:
yep saw that after i posted.
anyone know what intake the ts/te50s used? i haven't had a good look at one before.

Yep, they had a unique intake on the stroker engines. Had a bunch of stagggered trumpets inside this large plenum....
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 Post subject: Re: Windsor factory intake identification
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:59 pm 
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cheers dude, s**t thats a nice intake.

 

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