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Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 12:09 am 
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Hi All,

I know BA brakes fit to AU11 and above but is that all dependant on the K frame?

So if you fit an AU11 k frame to an EB (as much hassle as it would be) does that mean BA brakes will bolt to the EB?

Will the upper control arm mounts be in the right spot on the EB?

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU K frame into EB with BA brakes Question
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:22 am 
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Tommo52 wrote:
Hi All,

I know BA brakes fit to AU11 and above but is that all dependant on the K frame?

So if you fit an AU11 k frame to an EB (as much hassle as it would be) does that mean BA brakes will bolt to the EB?

Will the upper control arm mounts be in the right spot on the EB?



yes it's all dependant on the AU k member, which has been done in a EB. the BA brakes will be going onto the AU uprights & the upper control arm mounts will be in the right spot on the EB as long as you have mounted the k member correctly. some have used the AU upper only on the EB [with an adapter] to give more [i think it was?] caster. eventually i want to fit the AU upper to my EB.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 8:17 am 
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Tommo52 wrote:
Hi All,

I know BA brakes fit to AU11 and above but is that all dependant on the K frame?

So if you fit an AU11 k frame to an EB (as much hassle as it would be) does that mean BA brakes will bolt to the EB?

Will the upper control arm mounts be in the right spot on the EB?


What is your main reason for wanting to fit the AU K Frame?
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 Post subject: Re: AU K frame into EB with BA brakes Question
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 1:22 pm 
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yes it's all dependant on the AU k member, which has been done in a EB. the BA brakes will be going onto the AU uprights & the upper control arm mounts will be in the right spot on the EB as long as you have mounted the k member correctly. some have used the AU upper only on the EB [with an adapter] to give more [i think it was?] caster. eventually i want to fit the AU upper to my EB.


Thanks Mad. Wasn't sure if there was different geometry in the wheel arch between EB and AU that would prevent the brakes from bolting up, even with the AU11 K frame.

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What is your main reason for wanting to fit the AU K Frame?


What is your main reason for wanting to tell me it's not worth it? :wink:

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU K frame into EB with BA brakes Question
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Simple question.

Answer if you want. It may be worth it or not, depends on you anwser.
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 Post subject: Re: AU K frame into EB with BA brakes Question
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:45 pm 
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Simple question. Answer if you want. It may be worth it or not, depends on you answer.


My question was simple too, but I'll bite. :D

Pro's for fitting AU K Frame:
- House an AU sump without modification.
- House AU steering rack.
- Ability to fit BA brakes as an upgrade over standard.
- Already have AU11 donor car for parts.

Con's for fitting AU K frame:
- Requires engineering certificate
- Time consuming and a lot of work.
- Kinda gotta get it right the first time

As my topic suggest, I'm looking to fit the AU K frame for the purpose of brakes.
I know there's big brake upgrades available for around $1k but they have downfalls as well.

Pro's for Big Brake upgrade:
- Bolt on
- Complete kit

Con's for Big brake upgrade:
- Fairly pricey
- None OEM proprietary parts

IMO, the benefit of BA brakes outweighs the convenience of the Big Brake upgrade kit.
I think the None OEM proprietary factor of the Big Brake kit could be a huge downfall especially when parts for the kit become unavailable.

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU K frame into EB with BA brakes Question
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:09 pm 
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if you use the AU stuff the wheel offset will change
and you will need AU onwards rims for the front
and e series rims for the rear

 

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Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 11:12 pm 
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Disco Frank wrote:
if you use the AU stuff the wheel offset will change
and you will need AU onwards rims for the front
and e series rims for the rear



change diff
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:33 pm 
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I already run FG wheels all round, the offset shouldn't be an issue.
Especially on the front.

 

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This sounds like a really interesting job, Keep us Posted if you go with it mate!.

 

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This sounds like a really interesting job, Keep us Posted if you go with it mate!.


Will do, planning to commence most of this work during the upcoming victorian School holidays as my work holidays fall in line with them.

Most progress will be detailed in my garage build thread, but will update this thread to let people know. :)

 

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The Toxic Mk II build should give some pointers:
the-garage-f53/toxic-wagon-mkii-t89250.html

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:12 pm 
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Thanks Snap.

Am definitely sourcing inspiration and methods from others builds'
With any luck and proper implementation my EB might turn out just as solid :D

 

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There's another benefit to this conversion - much better engine mounts.

 

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