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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:18 pm 
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I've had standard auto, shift kitted auto (good fun - For those not aware I had it switched under my left foot so I could turn it on or off whenever required...), T5 and now T5 with short throw shifter.

Which is most fun?
    For completely scaring you in wet weather
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD. Gawd help you.

    For driving aggressively in any weather
    T5 with short shifter and Exeedy Heavy Duty clutch, LSD.

    For getting from zero to twenty
    T5 with short shifter and good clutch work

    For getting from 30km/h to end of quarter mile
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD.

Which is going to last longest?
    Grandma driving
    Auto

    Race car driving
    Manual (do you downshift with an auto to get engine braking... I do....)

    Drags
    Auto (ain't no way your T5 is going to cope with your 400kw car week after week... Which brings me to suggest the TKO... Am I getting out of the scope of this thread here?.....)

As for slow kick downs -0-0- Put the selector in the gear you want WELL before you actually need it... Just be careful in the wet, going down hills etc. And be prepared to use twice as much petrol as you're sitting around 4,000 rpm a hell of a lot.

As for TURBO AUTO's.,.... Vomit.

TURBO REQUIRES MANUAL.

My three cents.
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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:25 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
other than the strength differences! keeping in mind that both auto and manual can be strengthend

i look at it this way..
most drag cars are auto of some sort, can be faster in gear changing and acceleration.

and curcuit cars are.... manual! for choosing the right gear braking into and accelerating out of a corner.
this is where the auto kick down would suck..

so it depends what you want? do you want a car that just drags off the line?
or a car that has a sporty nimble acceleration in and out of corners aswell as being competative in acceleration??

i know what i would choose... :)


This says it all!!! i know what i would choose too ;)
My short shift gets a pritty quick shift to just depends on how quick u are really.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:10 pm 
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manual is fun, and lets you actually pick the right gear for every situation unlike BTR's

but auto is a better choice for a daily driver, especially if your car sees alot of peak traffic or your just too lazy to be changing gears all the time...... which is why i went back to auto :)
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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:43 pm 
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zf 6 speed ftw!!!! can't complain about how responsive that kickdown is:P and even around corners the performace mode is a blast knows just when to shift

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:42 pm 
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zf 6 speed ftw!!!! can't complain about how responsive that kickdown is:P and even around corners the performace mode is a blast knows just when to shift


quiet you. not everyone has a big a** loan or a daddy who buys them a new car :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:00 pm 
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I've had standard auto, shift kitted auto (good fun - For those not aware I had it switched under my left foot so I could turn it on or off whenever required...), T5 and now T5 with short throw shifter.

Which is most fun?
    For completely scaring you in wet weather
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD. Gawd help you.

    For driving aggressively in any weather
    T5 with short shifter and Exeedy Heavy Duty clutch, LSD.

    For getting from zero to twenty
    T5 with short shifter and good clutch work

    For getting from 30km/h to end of quarter mile
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD.

Which is going to last longest?
    Grandma driving
    Auto

    Race car driving
    Manual (do you downshift with an auto to get engine braking... I do....)

    Drags
    Auto (ain't no way your T5 is going to cope with your 400kw car week after week... Which brings me to suggest the TKO... Am I getting out of the scope of this thread here?.....)

As for slow kick downs -0-0- Put the selector in the gear you want WELL before you actually need it... Just be careful in the wet, going down hills etc. And be prepared to use twice as much petrol as you're sitting around 4,000 rpm a hell of a lot.

As for TURBO AUTO's.,.... Vomit.

TURBO REQUIRES MANUAL.

My three cents.


turbo 6 speed typhoon = no boost loss in gear changes..
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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:28 pm 
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FORDom wrote:
fiend wrote:
I've had standard auto, shift kitted auto (good fun - For those not aware I had it switched under my left foot so I could turn it on or off whenever required...), T5 and now T5 with short throw shifter.

Which is most fun?
    For completely scaring you in wet weather
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD. Gawd help you.

    For driving aggressively in any weather
    T5 with short shifter and Exeedy Heavy Duty clutch, LSD.

    For getting from zero to twenty
    T5 with short shifter and good clutch work

    For getting from 30km/h to end of quarter mile
    Auto with shift kit engaged and LSD.

Which is going to last longest?
    Grandma driving
    Auto

    Race car driving
    Manual (do you downshift with an auto to get engine braking... I do....)

    Drags
    Auto (ain't no way your T5 is going to cope with your 400kw car week after week... Which brings me to suggest the TKO... Am I getting out of the scope of this thread here?.....)

As for slow kick downs -0-0- Put the selector in the gear you want WELL before you actually need it... Just be careful in the wet, going down hills etc. And be prepared to use twice as much petrol as you're sitting around 4,000 rpm a hell of a lot.

As for TURBO AUTO's.,.... Vomit.

TURBO REQUIRES MANUAL.

My three cents.


turbo 6 speed typhoon = no boost loss in gear changes..


6 speed auto= launch on boost with no wheel spin...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:09 pm 
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haha sorry mate but i ernt all the coin my self and bought both my cars myself i had a el xr6 too it was a shift kitted auto:)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:27 pm 
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green machine wrote:
FORDom wrote:
fiend wrote:
As for TURBO AUTO's.,.... Vomit.
TURBO REQUIRES MANUAL.
turbo 6 speed typhoon = no boost loss in gear changes..

6 speed auto= launch on boost with no wheel spin...

6 speed auto= launch on boost with no wheel spin. Bored yet? Man that sounds crap. You gotta be able to turn that "function" off right?

Must admit to liking the no boost loss in gear changes. Always had a crazy thought that blow off valves were all s**t. Keep the turbo spinning from one gear into the next I say. Like my old Mazda...... Turbo spun up, slam in the next gear and you have a bit of a rubber band effect from still having some PSI at the inlet.

Whatever. It worked.

Auto and Turbo just feels wrong. I drove one pretty quick little Soobie with that set up for quite a while and it was a b**ch to get moving well around the twisty, hilly, windy countryside roads that I know and love from motorbike craziness all those years ago. You could still get it kicking some manual evo IV and Celica butt (even bet a bloody Nissan Skyline once - but he must have been a p***y, or thought the Soobie was way hotter than it actually was so buttoned off after me trying to under take and over take and getting the nose up to his front wheel before hammering the anchors on to give him road room...)


ZF six speeds aside... Never driven one, don't have a clue. Wouldn't mind giving it a go. Maybe DATA_MINE wouldn't say no to me driving around his local circuit with his flappy paddles? Then again....

Your gearbox is worth three times the price of my entire car by the way.
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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:15 pm 
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Has no one heared of a full manual valve body.. :lol: :lol: best of both worlds if you ask me
Ive had 351clevo's with a top loader and a c4 behind them, there is no doubt that a top loader or manual is heaps of fun to drive but an auto with a full manual valve body and a good converter gives you all the benifits of an auto with the fun of a manual ...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:39 am 
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why is it that when u are after a good 1/4mile or a good 0-100 people suggest manuel

if you guys here have said ( most of u) that autos are better for those two things

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:12 am 
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because the BTR has s**t gearing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:31 am 
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Steady ED wrote:
because the BTR has s**t gearing.


Yup, but i really dont thing you can beat a BTR with a high stall, shiftkit and 4.11's

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:49 am 
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GeZza200 wrote:
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because the BTR has s**t gearing.


Yup, but i really dont thing you can beat a BTR with a high stall, shiftkit and 4.11's


Yes, you can.....sh!t top speed!...............LOL

 

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 Post subject: Re: Auto vs Manual
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:00 pm 
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cjh wrote:
GeZza200 wrote:
Steady ED wrote:
because the BTR has s**t gearing.


Yup, but i really dont thing you can beat a BTR with a high stall, shiftkit and 4.11's


Yes, you can.....sh!t top speed!...............LOL


The 4th gear in BTR is very long as well. with 4.11's @5800rpm you will be doing 252kph. Which i think most of our 4.0L wouldn't even get there.

 

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