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 Post subject: Re: Machining stub axles
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:45 am 
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What gives the au offset ? The upright or the hub?

If I get the custom hubs made I'd have to take into account the thickness if disc and where the hub sits on the axle

 

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 Post subject: Re: Machining stub axles
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:03 pm 
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ef_falcon_95 wrote:
What gives the au offset ? The upright or the hub?

If I get the custom hubs made I'd have to take into account the thickness if disc and where the hub sits on the axle

I'm using the hub to change offset. Running a custom hub that uses E Series bearings but floating rotors. It's not as simple as its sounds with hubs and offset with an AU rotor, you need to make sure the rotor height works with the caliper positioning.

My uprights are all done by a machine shop, and my hubs are custom CNC billet

 

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 Post subject: Re: Machining stub axles
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:53 pm 
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Is all that going to cost more than el gt rotors ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Machining stub axles
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:28 pm 
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ef_falcon_95 wrote:
Is all that going to cost more than el gt rotors ?

I haven't priced EL GT rotors. My CNC work is all being done VERY cheap, it's amazing what a good relationship with neighboring businesses can do.

To retain E Series offset using the C4 Caliper you wither have to run an EL GT Rotor, or a 94-00 Mustang Cobra rotor.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:33 pm 
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Someone needs to get a set of AU2/EL hybrid stub axles cast/machined up and then organise a group buy :lol:

Would bolt in to e-series as per standard, but give you the AU onwards hubs and offset, and the ability to bolt on any AU2 onwards brakes.

EDIT: pretty sure the stub axles are cast steel.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:16 pm 
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You missed the point that we are wanting to retain e-series offset or close to 0

 

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You missed the point that we are wanting to retain e-series offset or close to 0

Well if we're going to all that trouble to make custom stub axles, I don't see why a 0 set couldn't also be designed/cast/machined :wink:

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:14 pm 
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ef_falcon_95 wrote:
Is all that going to cost more than el gt rotors ?

I haven't priced EL GT rotors. My CNC work is all being done VERY cheap, it's amazing what a good relationship with neighboring businesses can do.

To retain E Series offset using the C4 Caliper you wither have to run an EL GT Rotor, or a 94-00 Mustang Cobra rotor.


So it would be difficult and expensive to get a bf caliper and bf rotor onto a el upright ?

 

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what is stoping us from using the standard ef/el upright with a el GT rotor
while using either AU3 or B series calipers and just having a bracket made to attach the caliper to the standard el up rights?

surely this would be the easyest and heapest way around the brakes.
and should still have the e-series offset.
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What has to be done to get the mustang rotor on a el stub axle ?

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Jonathan Kakousidis wrote:
what is stoping us from using the standard ef/el upright with a el GT rotor
while using either AU3 or B series calipers and just having a bracket made to attach the caliper to the standard el up rights?

surely this would be the easyest and heapest way around the brakes.
and should still have the e-series offset.


That would be the easiest but not cheap . For one el gt rotor it's like $350 .
There's a el gt rotor on eBay for $450 , that's one rotor lol

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:26 pm 
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ef_falcon_95 wrote:
Jonathan Kakousidis wrote:
what is stoping us from using the standard ef/el upright with a el GT rotor
while using either AU3 or B series calipers and just having a bracket made to attach the caliper to the standard el up rights?

surely this would be the easyest and heapest way around the brakes.
and should still have the e-series offset.


That would be the easiest but not cheap . For one el gt rotor it's like $350 .
There's a el gt rotor on eBay for $450 , that's one rotor lol




yes ive been looking at thoses.
surely there is another model car that runs the same disc like the mustangs that we could use as a cheaper option.
then again ill gladly pay 900 bucks for those rotors as long as we can get a bracket made for less then 200.
how often do you change discs? not that often....
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:06 pm 
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Jonathan Kakousidis wrote:
what is stoping us from using the standard ef/el upright with a el GT rotor
while using either AU3 or B series calipers and just having a bracket made to attach the caliper to the standard el up rights?

surely this would be the easyest and heapest way around the brakes.
and should still have the e-series offset.


The standard upright has an "ear" on it that needs to be machined off to allow bigger rotors...from memory the piece that needs to be cut off supports the pad?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Machining stub axles
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Yes they need to be machined flat then 2 holes drilled and tapped for a caliper bracket .

 

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ok but if the el gt uprights dont have these what helps hold the pads in on the gt then?
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