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 Post subject: 95 EF XR6 T5 World Class or Non World Class ?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:39 pm 
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OK I have searched but are still not sure. Box is in a 95 EF XR6, Trans - K, Trans ID tag reads - 94DA 7003 AA, 0552-012, 4009, (4009 is stamped not raised) can any one help.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:51 pm 
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EF/EL have WC Boxes.
infact anything above EB2 have WC unless its been changed.


Look for this pin:
With = WC
Without = Non WC

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 Post subject: Re: 95 EF XR6 T5 World Class or Non World Class ?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:30 am 
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Thanks man, saved the picture and will check. A company online had the last three numbers of the second line of my code '012' listed as Non World Class just wanted to check.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:34 pm 
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I have checked the gearbox and it has the pin which is a good thing. So the Non World Class box has nothing in this position at all, just want to make sure.

 

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 Post subject: Re: 95 EF XR6 T5 World Class or Non World Class ?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:45 pm 
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Hey Wagon Dad... Just to pour some confusion on the issue, when talking to Borg Warner about this subject (they were really nice - Honestly couldn't have asked to be dealing with a nicer bunch... I lucked in there big time) they did not actually confirm this pin position thing as being 100% correct.

But yeah, anything above EB2 was supposedly WC. Which is a good thing, you're quite right. Means you don't have odd dimension roller pins to loose in your sump when trying to install shafts...

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:07 pm 
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Thanks Fiend, I might pull the box and check the internals to make sure, I dont know the history of the car just bought it (EF XR6 in need of some tender loving care) , it looks all standard but looks can be decieving.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:14 pm 
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what is this WC vs non WC?

 

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WC is a revised box, it has a few upgrades, as in:
some needle roller bearings.
reverse synchronizer mech.
different ratio.

its basically a series 2 box.

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:12 pm 
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Non WC: XF/EA boxes
WC: EBII onwards
That pin/'roofing nail head' in the pic is the easiest way externally to tell the 2 types of boxes apart.
That pin is part of the reverse gear detent revised setup.

 

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The Borg Warner guy seemed to think that there were some floating around with roller pins AND the pictured "lug", "pin" etc. Whatever. I am damn sure that in 99.9999 reoccurring percent of the time you'd be correct.

Was also told that it was a DATE OF MANUFACTURE thing and that maybe, just maybe, that date is not directly in correlation to the EB2 production cycle.
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I have got the option to pull the gear box and have the car sit for a while, I dont need it on the road, this XR6 is my first Adult ( kids almost ready to move out) project car a long way from my first car a 302 XW Fairmont.
Now that we have 99% established that the box should be a WC, what is the best kit to get and where to get it. Thanks.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:55 pm 
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I have got the option to pull the gear box and have the car sit for a while, I dont need it on the road, this XR6 is my first Adult ( kids almost ready to move out) project car a long way from my first car a 302 XW Fairmont.
Now that we have 99% established that the box should be a WC, what is the best kit to get and where to get it. Thanks.



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fiend wrote:
The Borg Warner guy seemed to think that there were some floating around with roller pins AND the pictured "lug", "pin" etc. Whatever. I am damn sure that in 99.9999 reoccurring percent of the time you'd be correct.
This transmission will have a tapered bearing between the input shaft and mainshaft, not the 15 needle rollers.

 

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