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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:52 pm 
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I thought you kept the BBM on the EL Engine when you installed it. Shows how much attention I pay....

I'm sure you will let us know how it goes, I'm keen to find out how much difference there is.

Are you running the Serpentine belt setup?


Iam quite sure ben is running the serp belt,

So how did it go?

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:24 am 
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BBM is in.

And I have to say, what a difference. The mid range urge is huge, and the throttle responsiveness is just awesome. I am a very happy chappy.

Some pics.

Log Manifold removed.
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BBM in and running.
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The fun part was undoing the extractors so I could change the metal heater pipe over. I also used some new heater hoses under the manifold.

For those wanting to do a BBM conversion here is a list of parts needed.

    EF/EL BBM and Throttle Body and support brackets
    New intake manifold gasket
    EF/EL Fuel Rail and Injectors and Fuel Regulator with as much of the Fuel hose attached as you can get
    The metal heater pipe that goes from the back of the water pump, under the exhaust manifold, around the back of the engine and under the back of the BBM
    The metal heater pipe from the lower thermostat housing
    EF/EL heater pipes as they ARE different
    EL ECU
    EF/EL BBM Switching Solenoid and associated Vacuum pipes and fittings
    EF/EL intake filter box and pipes
    EF/EL throttle pedal and cable - the pedal has a different ratio than the EA-ED one
    Log manifold wiring harness modified to suit the BBM shape and EF/EL TPS and ICS

The engine is now exactly like it was in my old Red EB Sedan. I have a few things up my sleve for the engine so will let you know as things happen.

The LPG Convertor and Mixer have yet to find new homes as part of the BBM conversion. I hope to have a play with that tomorrow - well today now lol.

The difference between this setup and the log is like chalk and cheese.

A very worthwhile mod.

Cheers
BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:08 am 
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Dude - As soon as I saw that top photo I thought "looks like the dodgy old BENJ forgot to order something..."

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =226495435

Good news it all went in sweet and is doing what it was designed to...


Now that you've fed and housed Snap a few times, I hope you realise that if he get's out his run or slips off his owners leash he'll be bowling right up your driveway looking for a half decent meal, a scratch behind the ears and a few box cars to operate on.

Could be worse.
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:26 am 
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Got a bit sorted out today.

Snap, LP and Myself went to Pick N Payless to scavenge about for LPG bits and pieces, and scored quite nicely.

Found an NA with an old IMPCO setup on it, that had a nice piece of flexible supply line. This proved to be exactly the right length to reach from the end of the existing copper tank supply line to the new location of the convertor on the right hand strut tower. I have rerouted the existing copper supply line from over the left hand strut tower, so it now goes behind the head and finishes just shy of the brake booster.

We also grabbed a couple of EF rocker cover bolts that have the risers on them. This is to mount the bracket holding the mixer in position. Also acquired, were an EA intake pipe, assorted brass LPG fittings, lock off valves, and flow control valves. Nice little haul really.

So after getting home, downing some great Pizza, saying farewell to Snap, I got around to mocking up the LPG gear and ducting. This was a proof of concept excersize. It should work well.

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In the long run I will be using some more of the bling piping over the rocker cover, but in the mean time the rubber piping will do the job.

I also have to route the heater hoses, but have that planned.

Hey Dazzle, there appears to be plenty of room for the bypass.


On another note check this out.

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SWC has been busy again.

Have a good one.

Cheers
BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:33 am 
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looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors?

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:35 am 
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Froudey wrote:
looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors?


Not really. Snap has been running this setup for a long time with no issues. I will however look at fabricating a shield of some sort.

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:38 am 
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BenJ wrote:
Froudey wrote:
looking good ben,, but isn't it risky having the mixer etc "ontop" of the extractors?


Not really. Snap has been running this setup for a long time with no issues. I will however look at fabricating a shield of some sort.

BenJ


oh ok then I assumed as most extractors throw out some heat would be a hazzard but if it is tried and tested :lol: all good. that front bar will look sick.

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:36 pm 
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How much room above the mixer to the bonnet?


Plenty.

In reality, the bracket used is from the left hand side so the height is the same, but it sits a tiny bit further forward. Still has adequate clearance.

BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:26 pm 
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ashcook wrote:
How much room above the mixer to the bonnet?


Plenty.

In reality, the bracket used is from the left hand side so the height is the same, but it sits a tiny bit further forward. Still has adequate clearance.

BenJ


Great, that's excellent!


Doh, I was talking about the convertor.

The mixer sits a bit lower than the convertor, so has plenty of clearance.

BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:07 pm 
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The converter to mixer gas hose is very short in this setup - around 5".
This should improve the response we hope, along with the 50 CFM better air flow with the 225 mixer over the 200 (which is normally used in the gas BBM setups).
Normally the hose runs from LHS to RHS of the car in an Impco 200 mixer setup.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:36 pm 
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Done.

The LPG is now operational.

Oh, and had to add some bling to make it functional.

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Seems to drive ok. Have only been up the road and back, so will give more feedback late.

Cheers
BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:00 pm 
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that looks like a pretty good set up there ben...
the only thing i would have a little concern about is the heat from the extractors effecting the convertor to mixer hose and the rubber flex hose?
otherwise i think you should get better results than the previous set up.. :)
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:00 pm 
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that intake isn't hitting on the bbm is it?

looks very neat and tidy

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:50 pm 
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I am yet to look at a heat shield of some sort. That will be next on the list.


Froudey

I would actually say it is 'sitting' on the BBM. I am considering some sort of bracket to lift it a little, using the EL intake bolt holes.


The intake setup is only temporary until I get together with Da22le, and we design a 'Petrol Bypass' setup.

Oh, and the other bit I forgot, was the Crankcase Ventilation. I have just got back from Bunnings with a couple of barbs to work out a solution.


Cheers
BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:49 am 
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looks damn good ben, have you thought about just a mini air filter for the rockercover?

 

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