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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:11 pm 
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dan1_721 wrote:
Car looks good, I like it. Keep putting up pics. I like pics.

Hopfuly tomorrow is a nice day!

KWIKXR wrote:
The ED looks good man, i like the bootlip spoiler by the way, i reckon it looks good on the early e series falc's :wink:

I must say my dad mentioned this spoiler to me, i lvoed the sound of it and when the wreckers only wanted $30 for it and it was already white i couldnt resist i love it, theres nothing rice about it.

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i just have one question what happened to the other car ?

Lol if he is talking about the one that causes distress to e-series owners, i would also like to know how the car ended up like that? Lol its like its sitting on it k-frame or something it dropped so much at the front :lol:


Went to fast into a right hand turn corner, half way through gave it a boot full rear right wheel broke traction due to non LSD. A lack of experience caused me to "over correct". Around the same time the wheels gripped up i noticed the car coming the other way. The other car was already in the middle of the road because he was going around a parked car. Adding to the natural foolish over correction i turns the the left more to try and aviod the other car, this "snapped the nose of the car towards the side walk the front left wheel was highly damaged from hitting and mounting the gutter(refer to picture in first post). As it happened fast and i was in shock i have no real memory of time between seeing the other car infront of me and being in the car stopped on road. But i can peice it together and have like a slide shot of visions in my head which include the following. After mounting the gutter the car straightened up i dont know if the right wheels were on the side walk or not, the car hit a paper bark tree i road my bike past every school day for around 5 years, this tree stood around 4 or 5 meters tall. The car broke throu this tree mostly slowing me down, i have no recolection of what speed of was doing. shortly after hitting tree and closing eyes(i think) a second bump were the front left guard nipped a great big power poll pointing me back towards the road. the car slid to a stand still a few meters later, this is when i turned the engine off and got out, the rest involved the locals coming out to see what happened me ringing dad(this all happened 2 turns and about400m from home) me telling cops what happened the ambo's checking me over, only had a bruise in right bicep and bruised shins. To my surprise dad rang a tow truck and he got there b4 any ambo or cops haha.

How the car turned out.

The rims and disk brakes on car were fine and still being used today, ripped out the ball joint smashed the radiator into clutch fan, so glad this happened b4 i got my XR head lights.
there a kink in roof between doors on passenger side, bonnet damaged, other small things.
Ive still got the engine and auto and its for sale has a low 150 xxx on it. i only recently took this wreck to scrap metal and got $60 for it.

Hmm that took much longer than i though once i started i couldnt stop, atleast you should be able to get a picture or general "gist" of what happened.

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:15 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:34 am 
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very lucky, i don't remember my mva, but all i know is that a drunk driver came out of a side street and t-boned me, i was doing 80kph, he must of been doing 80+ too, cos it sent my car across 6 lanes of traffic and a power poll came in the drivers door, right on the mirror, basicly breaking the EB in half.

6mths rehab, and a lot of operations!!

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:05 am 
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Morning everyone,

From the sound of your mine seem like nothing like i said a couple of brusies on my shins and arm.

Todays looking very over cast i dont know what it is but over cast days strain my eyes but ill get out and work on those windows after some brekky.

Sommers NL are you still interested in the EB once im done with it? It should be ready to be picked up this weekend but cant promise anything at the moment.
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:07 am 
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itlookslikeaxr6 wrote:
Morning everyone,

From the sound of your mine seem like nothing like i said a couple of brusies on my shins and arm.

Todays looking very over cast i dont know what it is but over cast days strain my eyes but ill get out and work on those windows after some brekky.

Sommers NL are you still interested in the EB once im done with it? It should be ready to be picked up this weekend but cant promise anything at the moment.



yeah, i am, can you please PM me your mobile.
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:07 pm 
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Hi everyone,

First photo shoot
Done! Went to park before picking GF up from school today.
The first picture i took on the way to park theres a 1km drive b4 you get the the park so i stopped and am really happy with how this shot turned out.
Second one is when i was walking to my car and had my camera in my pocket.
Last this one was actually at the park with the lake in the background.
I took plenty but i choose these 3 winners, please enjoy.

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Todays progress
Im very happy with progress made today and i pround to annonce the GLi has power windows!
It wasnt easy flying as i hit some turbulance.

Starting with the right rear door today i did the usual to get started which included the following.

- remove door trim
Easily done theres 7 screws around edge of trim then the 3 in the inner door handle.

- remove plastic crap with out damaging it to much
Just work your way around the edge

- un-clip/plug the doors old wiring harness

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- remove wiring harness
I found it easiest after you unplug everything inside the rear door then close that door and open the drivers door. pull the rubber gromit coming from the rear door out then carfully pull out the old wiring harness with it, or if your feel the need you can cut it. Pull out the cable held in by 2 clips, try not to break these as they stop the wires jamming and being damaged when doors are used. i cut the wire from the clips then pulled them out and re taped them on later. Pull out the bottom rubber gromit and unplug the connected wire, while your there fish out the second wire which you will need for the new harness. Put the new harness in the opposite to how you got the other one out, feed the wires through into the door and then place the gromit back in the hole. run the wire down the door and plug both clips back in, connect the 2 plugs and feed them back into the sill and replace that bottom gromit.

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- Swap Mechanisms
The rest involves removing the old window mech and replacing it with the power one.
The hardest part is removing the motor with is held on by what looks to be "heavey duty" pop rivits.

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Once these are out its a couple of screws, maneuver the mech out and replace with the power one. I used a short bolt and nut to hold the new one in as well as used some handy zip ties which clip into holes like the factory ones, this keeps cords tidy.

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I would recomend testing how the mechanisms to check there condition once you have got the wiring all done, for the back doors you will need to plug in the rear door switch to complete the power grid.

With another door i found it was getting jammed under pressure. Here some picture to show what was wrong.

I removed the C clip holding the top metal cover and this is what it showed

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In the following pictures notice the right white plastic peice has snaped and then slide inside and jammed into wheel.
This has "di railed" and damaged the wire(refer to picture), it no longer smoothly pass's through the metal tubing.

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As these mechanisms arnt very cheap i set out to fix it as i have the 4 old manual mechanisms with nothing wrong with them.

I used a grinder as i couldnt get a grip on the tabs and had it handy from removing the pop rivits.
Then the metal plate will come off and you can bin it.NOW STUDY THE CENTER WHEEL FIRST AS YOU NEED TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER LATER, once done pull out the center wheel that the wire is wraped around and remove the wire. The wheel should just pop out thou there may be some pressure on the wheel, to release some pressure i found you can pop out this(refer to picture 4). Next picture shows how to remove the wire just to give you an idea. lastly the wires are removed and fitted with the electric motor.

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Then work your way backwards and put it back together, dont forget the ceck it works by pluging it in before you go and bolt it all up. I managed to do everything by myself but a second set of hands would be very handy.

On another mechanism i just did a quick fix, pictures say it all

BROKEN
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QUICK FIX
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All this does is offer support.
And a quick tip, your mums dinner table will get dirty!

Here some pictures and a quick recap on work to the front passenger door.
i memoved the ecu to get to the door loom plugs inside the car.

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Then pulled the plugs out between the car and door.

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Unpluged ect with the loom inside door and pulled it out.

Here the difference in the 2 door looms

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All the swapping of the mechanisms was similar as other doors.

I also swapped the door locks as they were in better condition(refer to pictures)

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Heres some before and after pictures of the doors

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This is all progress made today, hope i didnt go over bored with the pictures.

Todays WTF is this question
This is were you can contrbute

WTF is this thing inside the door?

Does anyone know what this is and what it does, when i know that i can figure out if it works.

What i can tell you is,
Its from inside the door handle only on front doors and when the door handle is opened it pushes down and completes a connection to something.
Pictures.

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:35 pm 
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Nice photos, I really like the first one.
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, Power windows done
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:32 am 
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Thanks man! me too i really like the angle i got with that one. I havnt got any of the back cause there damage under right tail light and the P/S has sill rust you can see.

So i feel the first shot shows the best side and cleanest rim of the car!

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:11 am 
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The extra bit for the front doors, Is it the piece that makes the doors unlock when you try to open them from the inside?
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am 
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dan1_721 wrote:
The extra bit for the front doors, Is it the piece that makes the doors unlock when you try to open them from the inside?


Negative, its electronic. its hard to see in the picture but you lift the handle to open then a tab on handle inside door pushes down the flexible tab and makes it touch the other, this would complete a electric curcit and turn something like a light on?

Is there a chance the outside edge of the door lock lights up, there only small wires with a positive and negitive.
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:10 am 
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Its for when you lift the door handle the lock will illuminate. Nice little write up, im in the same process at the moment can you tell me how you wired it all up as my ride hasnt had elec windows and im trying to figure out which wire goes where from the switches. Cheers

 

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:13 am 
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You could probably use it to trigger anything.

From memory some of the fairmonts had a system where the interior light would turn on for a period if the exterior door handle was lifted.

It could also be something to do with the door lock.
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:52 am 
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Its for when you lift the door handle the lock will illuminate. Nice little write up, im in the same process at the moment can you tell me how you wired it all up as my ride hasnt had elec windows and im trying to figure out which wire goes where from the switches. Cheers


Theres a doco in the tech section :D worked for me

 

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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:09 pm 
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easpak91 wrote:
Its for when you lift the door handle the lock will illuminate. Nice little write up, im in the same process at the moment can you tell me how you wired it all up as my ride hasnt had elec windows and im trying to figure out which wire goes where from the switches. Cheers

Thanks ill check it one night to see if its lights up much, even thou i used the smart lock most of the time.

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Theres a doco in the tech section :D worked for me

I didnt even think to look in the tech section!

Thanks for your comments guys, ill update progress i made today when i get home tonight dont have time atm.

Regards,

Mick
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 Post subject: Re: Mick's (itlookslikeaxr6) ED BUILD, power windows finished
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:34 pm 
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Nice work mate, power windows are for winners.

 

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