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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: I don't suppose you could load the EA-ED ford manual up on rapidshare or something could you F100? :p im P100... not F100.. i never used rapidshare.. what size files do they take ?? this is the sizes...   Sorry about that mate
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no wukkin forries
did some cleaning up of the yard yesterday so took some better photos of the ute and updated my sig
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This is where I am now...
Feel free to jump in people.. when fiinished, this (and the ed one I'm doing next) will be helpful resources here. First colour is the main wire colour, second is the stripe. Code: EL Falcon engine loom colours
------------------------------------- Black/Yellow Air temp Yellow Black/Green Yellow/Green TFI Lt blue Pink White Black Grey/White ISC Pink/Grey Pink/Grey White/Yellow White/Green Cam sensor Green White/Red Grey/White Red/Green ignition to O2 and ign module Pink/Blue Red (small) Red (large) Black/blue White INJ 2 ?? black Orange/black Map & Throttle sensor common Green/Yellow Water Temp Green/Black Throttle pos Red (small) White/Blue Pink/Blue TFI Tan/White Brown TFI White Green/Grey Black/White Water Temp/Air/knock/map Tan/Yellow EL Loom 2 Pink (large) Pink (large) Pink/Black Pink/Green Red/Blue Red/Black Green Black/White Pink (small) Pink/Orange Black/Green White Yellow/Green Orange/White Blue Red (small) Red (large) Yellow (small) Green/Violet BBM Some of those have been verified by multimeter on the engine, most are just from looking at the schematics and matching up colors. Max Ellery's manuals are really really bad for accuracy.. particularly with regards to the schematics. Hayes are heaps better, but not perfect. The manual I bought online arrived for the EL, and its a friggin Elleries asw well, so I'm no better of than I was before. (except that my Walbor GS342 has arrived today as well... sweet) This is harder than I was expecting.. but only have to do it once right? Can anyone fill in any of those? rgds Frank |
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Gregory's manual's have good wiring schematics!!!
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I've looked for A gregory's for an EL.... not found one yet.
Tomorrow I'm going to pull out the old EA wiring loom and figure out how the injectors and stuff is wired in.. that will hopefully teach me enough to fill in a heap more of the wiring chart as the injectors can't have changed or the EL computer wouldn't be running my ED motor atm. 
would have been nice if someone else had adapted the harness before me.. but what they hell.. its not brain surgery, just time consuming and fiddly when you don't have the appropraite documentation. |
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hope this helps Frankieh,
regards, Luke............ 
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oh.... thats nice that is.. thanks heaps.. that should move things along nicely.
here is hoping the colours are better then the ones I have that list colors that don't exist in the loom. thanks again |
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{USERNAME} wrote: oh.... thats nice that is.. thanks heaps.. that should move things along nicely.
here is hoping the colours are better then the ones I have that list colors that don't exist in the loom. thanks again The colour codes on this schematic are correct, I have chased down a few sensor gremlins in my EL falcon in the past few years and everything in that schematic is correct. Cheers.............
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Thats brilliant..
I'ts already helped me work out a few of the ones I wasn't sure about. sweet... thanks again |
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Just spent an hour trying to clean the image up so I can see all the colours accurately.. I have 3 different versions now.. all more readable for different areas.
I could almost go out in the shed and work now.. despite it being nearly 3am...
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{USERNAME} wrote: Just spent an hour trying to clean the image up so I can see all the colours accurately.. I have 3 different versions now.. all more readable for different areas.
I could almost go out in the shed and work now.. despite it being nearly 3am... glad to be of help, the old cannon 3in1 scanner/printer/copier I have is a few years old now so yeah not the best quality. But yeah you sorted it out. cheers........post up pics once you finished the conversion!!!!!!!!!!!
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Was planning on making a bit of a tech doc from it..
IE how to adapt an EL engine harness to plug straight into a EA-ED loom... Think it might be worth it compared to customizing the ED loom to fit. |
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Update...
This is where I am at now... I do have a question though.. the sensor on the log manifold on the inside (closest to the block) of the log near the middle.. That is the pickup for the MAP sensor yes? Anyway, here is where I am at for both ED and EL mapping.. a ways to go yet. ED falc Code: BIG LOOM (ROUND) Tan ?????? Oange/Black Throtle pos Grey/White (big) ISC Tan INJ 1,3,5 Red (big) x3 All INJ & ISC Green/Black Throttle pos Green (lite Big) INJ 6,4,2 Black/white Throttlepos /MAP common Yellow/red MAP Brown TFI SMALL 4 spade plug. Red (big) Starter Soleniod White/Red Oil sensor Tan/Blue Earth red/green Coil & and suppressor under coil I must not have found a loom because the other TFI wires are not in the ones I've found thus far.. will keep looking And for the EL falcon Code: EL Falcon colours
Black/Yellow Air temp Yellow Black/Green Yellow/Green TFI Lt blue Pink White Black Grey/White ISC Pink/Grey Pink/Grey White/Yellow White/Green Cam sensor???? (on an EL?) Green Injectors 2, 4, 6 White/Red Oil pressure Grey/White Red/Green Coil/Supressor Pink/Blue Red (small) Red (large) Black/blue White black Orange/black Map & Throttle sensors Green/Yellow Water Temp Green/Black Throttle pos Red (small) TFI to starter circuit White/Blue Pink/Blue TFI / Coil / diag plug Tan/White Brown Injectors 1, 3, 5 White Green/Grey Black/White Water Temp/Air/knock/map/throttle Tan/Yellow yellow/red Knock Sensor EL Loom 2 Pink (large) Starter Soleniod Pink (large) Pink/Black Pink/Green Red/Blue Red/Black Green Black/White Pink (small) Pink/Orange Black/Green Joins to Black/White--->Earth White Yellow/Green TFI to ecu (tacho) Orange/White Blue Red (small) Red (large) Yellow (small) Green/Violet BBM |
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Hey Mr P100...
If your still "Out on good behaviour" could I bother you for a slightly higer res version of that ED Ford manual that you posted a while back.. I've almost got the ED loom nailed. just a couple of things I want to go though and no matter how much I clean up the one you posted earlier, I can't read the small text.. I realised that I don't need to map out the whole EL loom to get this working.. only need to map out the ED one and then find the same wires in the EL one. I will do the full EL one though, because we should have it on record. any chance dude? rgds Frank |
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hmmm.. P100 not about anymore it seems.
have to figure out the TFI stuff on the ED motor by hand |
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